Iraq For Sale: The War Profiteers

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<p>If I am one of the ‘detractors’ to which you refer, I refuse to see ‘documentaries’ about any current political issues. History may give us a better understanding of whats going on right now, but there is just too much propaganda on both sides to believe much of anything.</p>

<p>And I’m not trying to support ‘republicans’ so much as I am trying to take the wind from the sails of the ‘democrats.’ One side is looking for something thats not there, one side doesn’t see what is there. The truth–somewhere in the middle, I imagine.</p>

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<p>Wow-- how convienient to simply choose not to evaluate the information… just dismiss it out of hand, because it says something negative about the current administration and its policies, and nothing negative could be accurate?!</p>

<p>Very nifty dodge of reality.</p>

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<p>And everything negative is accurate? Please.</p>

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<p>Since neither of us have been to Iraq recently, I’m guessing, it is most reasonable to admit you don’t know what is truly going on. Assume anything anybody promotes could be a distortion of the truth.</p>

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<p>Correct, it is dismissed out of hand because the source is suspect. </p>

<p>Unbiased credibility is not present; therefore it is a waste of time.</p>

<p>However, your passion about the subject is obviously real and you accordingly have my respect, though we disagree on this subject.</p>

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<p>“yes, I interpret most or all of this as a political effort to undermine the President and his party”</p>

<p>It’s very sad that you see the world this way. Our troops and our contract employees deserve better.</p>

<p>/Spoken as the daughter, sister, aunt, and former spouse of military men.</p>

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<p>Let’s see…the posts someone listed showed dates in 2004. Plus, got to figure lag time for the news to leak out. That means this is somewhere around two years old or older.</p>

<p>It’s not actionable at this point - unless politics is your aim. The time to respond would have been right then and there…not wait two or more years for an election. That’s politics, not concern for our troops in the field.</p>

<p>Spare me the feminine histrionics.</p>

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<p>Parent2noles, I think the real reason you don’t want this information out isn’t that you’re afraid other people won’t be able to vote Republican if they know about it…it’s that you’re afraid YOU won’t be able to vote Republican if you know.</p>

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<p>^ I physically actually laughed for a good minute upon reading this.</p>

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I posted links from CBS news, the LA Times, & the Boston Globe. I simply ran a search in Google and posted links from the first page that came up. I am sorry you find those major news outlets so “biased” against the present Administration that you will not read them. I don’t know how to confine my searches on Google so that they only turn up links to Fox News and the Washington Times.

Actually, as I said before, most of the links I posted were from 2006, because I figured that if I linked to more of the 2004 stuff, there would be a complaint that it was too old. Then when you complained about all this news coming to light for the first time right before an election, I pointed out the older stuff. So I’m right: no matter what I come up with you will refuse to look at it. </p>

<p>Oh well, I’m going to try anyway. I ran a search on the Fox News site. Here are some links from Fox news that are more recent. Happy?</p>

<p>Parsons Corp. Under Fire for Iraq Work
Oct 10, 2006
<a href=“http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2006Oct10/0,4670,IraqReconstructionParsons,00.html[/url]”>http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2006Oct10/0,4670,IraqReconstructionParsons,00.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Study: Defense Company CEO Pay Has Doubled Since 9/11
August 30, 2006
<a href=“Fox News - Breaking News Updates | Latest News Headlines | Photos & News Videos”>Fox News - Breaking News Updates | Latest News Headlines | Photos & News Videos;

<p>Firm Pays $4M to Settle Iraq Fraud
August 2, 2006
<a href=“http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2006Aug02/0,4670,IraqFraud,00.html[/url]”>http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2006Aug02/0,4670,IraqFraud,00.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Army to End Halliburton Deal and Rebid Contract; Stock Falls
July 12, 2006
<a href=“http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,203135,00.html[/url]”>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,203135,00.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p><a href=“http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/27/AR2006092702134.html[/url]”>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/27/AR2006092702134.html&lt;/a&gt;
Having never had feces and urine showered down on me, I guess I can’t truly know what’s going on in the minds of Iraq’s police officers. But - and I am speculating here - the Iraqis may like many soldiers be a tad disappointed in their contractors’ product.</p>

<p>“yes, I interpret most or all of this as a political effort to undermine the President and his party”
Well, everyone hates a party-crasher, but this adminstration badly needs a Truman Committee to do the job it is unwilling or unable to do. And the insistence on the political conspiracy nonsense just reiterates the tired excuses that supposedly explain everything as someone’s else fault.</p>

<p>From an exasperated Michelle Cottle, [url=<a href=“http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=w061009&s=cottle101306]TNR[/url”>http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=w061009&s=cottle101306]TNR[/url</a>]

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<p>Parent2noles & GHBrown:</p>

<p>You are on a college website so you must have some concern about your kids being well educated. What sort of example do you set dismissing information PRIOR to evaluating it?</p>

<p>SEE THE MOVIE. Then make whatever comments you want. </p>

<p>Really, if you have not seen the evidence, you have no right to malign the source as biased.</p>

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<p>What do you think about the KKK?</p>

<p>Have you ever attended one of their rallies? I hope you haven’t judged them yet, if you haven’t.</p>

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<p>GHBrown, shame on you.</p>

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<p>Why shame on me?</p>

<p>How can we say one group has a more valid philosophy than another without giving both equally weighty evaluations?</p>

<p>What I’m trying to indirectly argue is that not all philosophies or information reported as factual evidence should be given equal merit. As I said before, everything is too politically charged right now to be academically honest. Time will give us a better understanding.</p>

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<p>GHBrown, how childish. The KKK’s positions have been pretty well-documented, and no one here has refused to learn what the KKK is about, or tried to deny what the KKK has done. </p>

<p>There is no moral high ground in placing your party’s desire to remain in office over the lives and well-being of our troops or our contract employees…or the incredibly brave Iraqi policemen who, given their rather short life expectancy, deserve better from us than showers of feces and contractors who poison them due to slipshod housekeeping.</p>

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<p>GH, what “group” is behind this film, and why do you think that group lacks credibility?</p>

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<p>I think that will probably be my last post in this thread. I don’t think we are on the same wavelength…I don’t even care about policy and politics, its all too frustrating. Nobody ever wins but we all lose.</p>

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<p>They arent my party!!! Nobody here knows how to read, I swear.</p>

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<p>“everything is too politically charged right now to be academically honest”</p>

<p>How long do you think our troops should wait for US citizens to deign to take an interest in their plight? You think 10 years will be long enough? 20? Should we make it an even 50, then make reparations? Will that be disinterested enough for you?</p>

<p>You and parent2noles are the only ones making this a political issue, so I suspect any academic dishonesty emanates from the same source.</p>