<p>It’s really just a matter of opinion what the best Ivy League school is. At least the OP made his argument in a clear and explicit manner. Engineerbill has thrown a bunch of numbers that really have no value to someone interested in finding out about Cornell.</p>
<p>@engineerbill,</p>
<p>So, from the following we are in agreement in all except #4</p>
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<li>Not an Engineer or a very poor quality one. Does not know/respond to engineering discussions. Probably does not have a clue what I am alluding to.</li>
<li>Probably a sales guy peddling USNWR or such rags</li>
<li>If 51, needs strong cocktail of medication including Aricept and Prozac.</li>
<li>Don’t know how to use or interpret data. Again a sign of low quality engineering skills.</li>
<li>Posts all over the place on the board Rutgers, U of MN, Rice in addition to this contributing to value deficit.</li>
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<p>So, let me clarify how you interpret data for your individual needs. Anyone can read data which I believe you can too since at least it is established that you can write. So, if you are a rank monkey (obsessed with ranks) then first thing I would do is what program and major am I interested in, what else is important to me as a student location, size, research opportunities, diversity, etc. Then look at the ranking.</p>
<p>BTW, Cornell #1 Ivy for Engineering and Biological Engineering. Pass on the message.</p>
<p>@ engineerbill,</p>
<p>Happy belated birthday. March 20, 1960</p>
<p>@engineerbill,</p>
<p>Time for Aricept and then hit the books to refresh your engineering you learnt at Princeton. Maybe try Cornell extension classes. Probably will make you a better engineer.</p>
<p>Omg, engineerbill some of your “after all, it is Cornell” comments really show both your ignorance and your feeling in inferiority. The most respected people are those who do not try to make others feel bad. Calling us “Cornell Crazies” is so sad…and I CANNOT believe you’re so old…</p>
<p>Engineerbill, you are an embarrassment to your parents, to your country, and to humanity. Get lost. We gave you sufficient information for you to leave with your tail between your legs.<br>
The only “cornell crazy” here is probably will anyways.</p>
<p>If you are the type of people they make in Princeton, they got serious work to do.</p>
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<p>You’re really blaming Cornell be not being something it was never designed to be. You seem incapable of acknowledging that Cornell is structured completely differently than any liberal arts college - so, yes, it will have some larger classes early on and it will have more spots to fill. But you know what program has the lowest SAT scores in lowly Cornell? Architecture - the best program in the country. Your definition of diversity is extremely limited as well. It goes far beyond race at Cornell.</p>
<p>Anyway, your childish behavior with lines like “after all, it is Cornell” and continued reference to the mental instability of people who feel they are not slighted in their education suggests you are not, in fact, 51 and probably did not, in fact, go to the schools you claim.</p>
<p>Having class goes a lot further in the real world than being a snob.</p>
<p>LOL HE’S 51?!! I am ****ting my pants from laughter</p>
<p>It has been fairly long established that cornell is least selective of the ivies. The land grants contribute to that, but it is also because of them that cornell has its diversity of programs. Perhaps more sub-par students do get in, but eventually they’re weeded out by the “legendary difficulty” of the cornell curriculum (and obviously other ivies don’t get trash kids who get in by riding hooks and their parents’ money). It says nothing about the quality of its programs.</p>
<p>I had stats that were quite impressive, even in ivy terms. So did a bunch of other EDers this yea and RDers last year. We applied here to the top notch privates because of the opportunities that they give us. Sure, some kids just apply here because it’s an ivy, simple as that but they’re not the motivated bunch that have what it takes to succeed in the end. The people that come here and succeed actually do know what they’re doing.</p>
<p>Oh and just to **** you off even further, it appears that cornell’s reputation is actually pretty good relative to other ivies (you probably ignored my last post listing all of those reputable ranking sources and went straight for USNWR because that’s the only one that relatively trashes cornell, though brown is pretty much on cornell’s level or lower every single round, and dartmouth as well. But obviously to you they’re not ivies because they don’t belong to a football league of prestige too huh? You truly are a sad 51 year old sucker)
[Top</a> Universities by Reputation 2011](<a href=“http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2010-2011/reputation-rankings.html]Top”>http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2010-2011/reputation-rankings.html)</p>
<p>Uhm. I’ve always been pretty objective here, or at least I try to be, but in the end I am a cornell student and I love cornell as well. So instead, I post links online for you guys to see that engineerbill sees as landmarks of objectivity (since rankings matter so much, I gave you a lot of it). Thank you for criticizing my objectivity…?</p>
<p>that was from an old post when a student asked about why cornell gets lowered yield. I answered pretty straightforwardly as I did in this post.</p>
<p>…
Like i said, cornell is rarely ranked above HYP. But that goes for other ivies as well.
You forgot to mention</p>
<p>1.Harvard
7.Princeton
9.Yale
16.Cornell
22.UPenn
23.Columbia</p>
<p>remember, throughout the post i never argued that cornell is the best ivy holistically in any way. You have serious issues kid (coming from a 17 year old to a 51 year old. From princeton. Just Wow.)</p>
<p>Remember this engineerbill, </p>
<p>Here is another post of his,</p>
<p>This should settle the debate:</p>
<p>NRC Rankings of ChE Departments</p>
<h1>14 - Georgia Tech</h1>
<h1>27 - UC Davis</h1>
<p>Probably not enough of a difference to warrant spending significantly more money for an OOS Public University</p>
<p>check this out,</p>
<p><a href=“Georgia Tech vs UC Davis - College Search & Selection - College Confidential Forums”>Georgia Tech vs UC Davis - College Search & Selection - College Confidential Forums;
<p>Conclusion</p>
<ol>
<li>Ebill is inconsistent. Read the post above and compare to what he is saying on this thread.</li>
<li>Short term memory lapse</li>
<li>Does not remember his birthday or is weak with numbers.</li>
<li>Engineer impersonator. Does not know the basics of engineering principles.</li>
</ol>
<p>I would urge people to dig up his other threads and post it here. Will prove what an inconsistent and unreliable fellow he is.</p>
<p>As for me, Friday evening. Off to dinner. Better things to do with life.</p>
<p>Seriously why do you care so much if this is not even your school and you are already 51. I would have thought that you would be at least relatively mature or reasonable by then. You are truly a disgrace to your Princetonian education (If that is even indeed close to true). I already spend way too much time on the Cornell section alone, and I only care because it is my school. How do you have so much time to waste and why would you ever waste it doing this?</p>
<p>I am going to follow you in that decision, 2coll. I urge others to do the same so that this ■■■■■ thread can finally come to an end. Otherwise, we’ll just be fighting fire with fire and this will never end. The more that people post, the more likely that this overgrown 7 year old will find some minute error in someone’s post, inflate it, make people even more angry, and keep this stupid thread going on.</p>
<p>Let him have his last word. It means nothing. He already embarrassed himself pretty thoroughly.</p>
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<p>It’s another year till I get my MD but I’m thinking…early onset dementia?</p>
<p>Did you not read my post which says ignore it and don’t feed the ■■■■■?</p>
<p>This is the second (at least) CC persona for the sophisticated uber-■■■■■:</p>
<p>engineerbill = JohnAdams12</p>
<p>JohnAdams12, aka engineerbill, was banned from CC a few months back for making excessive ad hominem, inflammatory, deceptive, and repetitive attacks from thread to thread. He made many claims under “JohnAdams12.” See post #342. This writer had a few run-ins with engineerbill/JohnAdams12 some months ago. He has an obsessive-compulsive personality disorder and big problems with any school that isn’t HYPSM, which is his fetish.</p>
<p>Just want to say something random here…you listed “lower diversity” as a negative of Cornell…I know generally, people regard high diversity as a mark of a better school…but why? When people are older, the least diverse towns are usually the most expensive and prestigous…so why is it the opposite with colleges?</p>
<p>Yeah, they make strides to be diverse…but why? To look less elite? Seems counterintuitive…</p>
<p>Um…thanks? What was the point in showing examples?</p>