Is it right to tell someone he/she has "no future" academically?

<p>Nurse? Check out Moravian. It’s far away from you ¶ and not sure it’s a fit, but worth a look.</p>

<p>One advantage to a BSN is that it allows you to go onto graduate studies in nursing, if you recieve your RN at a CC then it is a dead end for education.</p>

<p>actually CC classes should be transferable. A community college does offer both vocational programs and college transfer classes, but generally the bulk of the offerings do have their equivalent at a 4-yr school.
I have also been told that hospitals also have their own training programs for nursing.</p>

<p>When I see something like high school officials telling people that they can’t make it, I am always reminded of a little history. There was a prep school student who did quite poorly, avoided studies and was constantly on the verge of being told to leave for academic reasons. The school did a report on him that went to his parents which said that he should not attempt to proceed onto college because it would be a waste of resources, that he had minimal intelligence, that he really needed to consider a manual trade, and that it would be best for him that he be convinced to pursue that route. Despite the school’s evaluation, he ultimately ended up going to a military college. He later won the Nobel Prize in Literature in 1953, and during WWII, Winston Churchill was the Prime Minister of England.</p>

<p>High School personnel are in the business of encouragement, not discouragement, and they should not forget that.</p>

<p>speaking of no future.
I feel for the kids/parents/teachers who are interested in learning science in various Kansas/Wisconsin/Pennsylvania/Georgia schools where “intelligent design” will be taught along side scientific theories like evolution and relativity.
however we now have stickers! to let us know about the ideas in the textbooks our children may be using!
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ok back on topic</p>

<p>taking this thread on a slight digression…If joan of arcadia is going to Harvard (i’m assuming g-d is a legacy), then where would other tv characters go to college?</p>

<p>bart simpson - online degree program
the kids from the OC - CAL</p>

<p>any other ideas?</p>

<p>“Despite the school’s evaluation, he ultimately ended up going to a military college.”</p>

<p>He was a legacy admit (a close relation of the Duke of Marlborough and all that). He did much better at Sandhurst, but not well enough in certain subjects, so he wound up in the calvary. Tough break for his parents. They had to pay for the up keep of his horse.</p>

<p>Bart Simpson–bartender’s school</p>

<p>How about being a dental hygienist? Good paying job.</p>

<p>So Mini, I was blown away by this girls admission that her mom is living on child support of about $100 a week. In the Finaid board a student is applying to 10 private schools that use PROFILE but their households income is $4000 a year.
Is the economy really that bad that someone can’t find a job that pays minimum wage?
This isn’t a facitous question I am really interested and puzzled.</p>

<p>BTW I think Bart would go to Evergreen state college : alma mater of Matt Groening</p>

<p>General Assistance-Unemployed in our state, last I looked, for a mother with one child is roughly $263/mo. Generally, you can add in foodstamps and Medicaid on top of that. Add $100/mo child support, and the total comes to roughly $4k. Yes, we have thousands of people in that position. Usually there is a mental health disorder or physical disability of some type. Income would be slightly higher if the mother qualifies for SSI, but not by a whole lot.</p>

<p>Remember, however, that if the mother works full-time at McDonald’s, she is likely to lose her Medicaid, precisely that which provides the medication that makes it possible for her to work at McDonald’s. Temporary Assistance for Needy Families/Workfirst has put many back to work, but has essentially shut them off from any possibility of bettering themselves through education. But those who are left…</p>

<p>And housing. Sigh. In Seattle, taking the cost of a low-rent unit (figured at 2/3rds of the median cost of a 2-bedroom apartment, a mother with two kids working full-time at minimum wage would have to work roughly 106 hours a week, before the costs of transportation or childcare are figured in.</p>

<p>I have stories. Hundreds of them. More than you want to know.</p>

<p>To address one of wolfpiper’s original questions:</p>

<p>I think it’s fundamentally wrong to shoot down one student while pushing another for a school’s prestige. Unfortunately, I think it’s a scenario that occurs with more than just learning-disabled children. My school’s majority consists of bright, ambitious students who would have been valedictorians at their old schools. Here though, many are simply “middle of the pack.” While the college counseling office is careful not to say anything outright, they definitely do encourage the students with the highest GPAs to apply to more prestigious schools, remaining very conservative about school choice with everyone else. It’s very subtle but it’s a sad reality. The alumni (and parents) want good college matriculation statistics, and if that means discouraging students from going to their first-choice schools because it distracts the college from the superstars, that’s what they’ll do.</p>

<p>I wasn’t really talking about costs but about income. I realize that unless you are on subsidized housing, food stamps medical coupons etc things can be unmanageable.
My thought was merely that if someone was working full time, they would generally be making more than $4000 a year. The girl I am working with is a senior and her mother doesn’t work, there are no other children at home.
I am trying to advise her on college plans, but it is delicate as I have no idea what income will be available if she goes out of state.</p>

<p>“My thought was merely that if someone was working full time, they would generally be making more than $4000 a year. The girl I am working with is a senior and her mother doesn’t work, there are no other children at home.”</p>

<p>It’s true, but costs matter - they might be able to get by on $4k plus food stamps and Medicaid (subsidized housing is rather rare), but not on $10k without food stamps and Medicaid. That was the point of the post. I mean I can live at my place in India for about $1,500 quite comfortably - costs matter!</p>

<p>i really hate joan, so i loved watching her get shot down</p>

<p>Univ of Maryland now requires close to a 4.1 weighted GPA if you can believe that and close to 1300 median SATS. Towson isn’t far behind. Their median GPA is 3.7 weighted and about 1190 SATs as a median.</p>