We’re NYS residents and can afford to send our son to the contract colleges (HumEc or ILR) but not to Dyson. According to the stats that his school keeps for accepted students, it would be a reach but not impossible.
He’s thinking about majoring in business, maybe accounting, maybe management. We toured Cornell 2 years ago (before he knew what major he was interested in) and he really liked it. He’s a senior now.
If he applies to HumEc he could go for the PAM major http://www.human.cornell.edu/pam/prospective_student_resources.cfm
and take the university-wide Dyson business minor https://dyson.cornell.edu/programs/undergraduate/minors/university-wide-business.html
However if he decides that accounting is his real interest, it doesn’t look like there’s much he can do to even minor in it and still stay in HumEc? Or am I missing something on the Dyson business minor page? Does it make sense for him to even apply if it looks like he won’t have a chance to minor in accounting?
If your son is interested in accounting, he should be looking into schools with accounting majors. That business minor wouldn’t be sufficient for the CPA exam.
Does his school keep stats specifically for Dyson? When my kids were applying to college, their school’s Naviance just had data for Cornell as an aggregate, which is pretty useless. Their guidance counselors did have a better feel for the chances at particular colleges within the university though.
Though actual data has been hard to come by, in recent years it has been suggested that Dyson was the hardest program within the university to be admitted to. So chances may not actually be as good as you think. And I doubt those other programs would cut it.
My understanding is that Binghamton has a decent accounting program.
My DD is a junior in PAM and has the business minor. There was only 1 course that was required in accounting. If he wants to study accounting, he should apply to Dyson.
@lisaol Is your DD looking to be an accountant? I saw only 1 accounting class for the minor and that will not be enough to be CPA eligible. That was my point. A student interested in being an accountant should go to a school with an accounting major.
no, she doesn’t.
@lisaol I am curious what your DD is looking to do after college with the PAM major and and business minor. This is exactly the combination my child might consider. Any advice or information would be so appreciated. My child is math and science strong…but not sure going into Dyson (if they could get admitted) is the path they want. Thank you
Did they change the tuition rates for Dyson with the formation of the new business school? I’m fairly sure that, at least previously, Dyson was considered part of CALS in terms of in-state tuition. I can’t seem to find anything on the cost now, but might be worth looking into if there’s a possibility you could afford it.
I agree with @Ranza123 in questioning the Dyson tuition. Unless the university decided to carve Dyson out of CALS and charge Dyson students the same tuition they charge Hotel students as part of this new Business College, Dyson should be the same price as ILR & Hum Ec.
As to the undergraduate business minor not requiring enough accounting courses…any student can take any course he wishes, as long as he satisfies the pre-reqs for that course. I took accounting classes in Ag Ec (the old Dyson) and Hotel, as well as an ORIE course in Engineering, and I was in ILR. PAM students have to satisfy the graduation requirements of the PAM degree, but they can layer on lots of accounting courses, if desired. NYS residents may run up against limits on # of courses allowed in Arts, Eng, AA&P, and Hotel, but @Ranza123 can better address if those limits still apply.
Agree with @itsgettingreal17 that CPA is not a very common path from Cornell, even though accounting courses have long been offered in CALS & SHA.
The big 4 CPA firms do not care about prestige. Any AACSB accredited business school will do. What does matter is their accounting GPA and internships/coops.
@TomSrOfBoston ii am not sure I understand your comment about the bog 4 cpa firms do not care about prestige? Are you saying that if you want to work for say, Price Waterhouse coopers they don’t care if you have an accounting degree? If you want to be in the audit department and get a cpa you would need an accounting degree or atleast enought classes to sit I believe. I joined a cpa firm but went into tax and never sat for the cpa–they didn’t care. Many join those big 4 in consulting and the like—you don’t have to have an accouting degree. Could you clarify your comment - I just couldn’t tell it you were saying that getting a business degree without accounting would or would not matter for employment there???
@LvMyKids2 What I posted was that it doesn’t matter if the accounting degree comes from Cornell or SUNY Albany. It is the accounting GPA and coop/internships that matter.
Can you please tell me more about PAM. What are her future career goals. What do students usually do after graduation?