Is it WORTH Risking It?

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<p>Are the college activities you’ve done during college years all recorded in your transcript? If not, do professional/grad. schools check whether you lied about your commitment to those activities?(For e.g. by emailing to the club president or phone calling)</p>

<p>*NOTE: My definition of activities exclude research and volunteering, but more like frats, math/biology/chemistry/science club, sports club, etc.</p>

<p>So, here’s the question. Would it be worth faking these kind of small activities?</p>

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<p>The general answer:</p>

<p>Colleges don’t really care about “small,” petty activities. They want activities in which you were devoted and cared about; ones that are reflected by other sources.</p>

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<p>No it is not worth lying. Not only does simply having memberships not make a differences to colleges (which are more interesed in leadership and examples of depth of involvement), but also you could get caught for lying. This could happen because your interview doesn’t correspond to what you wrote on your app. Your references also may not correspond with what you wrote on your recommendation.</p>

<p>Being caught in a lie could mean that you don’t get admitted, your admission is rescinded or that your college degree is rescinded (Harvard’s policy for liars).</p>

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<p>Definitely not worth lying about anything on the application. There was an engineering student at a school I used to go to who lied on his undergraduate application but he didn’t get caught at the time. When he applied to graduate school the admissions staff found the mistake. The FBI and US Marshall’s office investigated and the guy got charged with multiple counts of mail fraud. He had forged information on his high school transcript and forged stuff regarding financial aid.
I know this case is more extreme than what you might want to do but I really wouldn’t take the risk of faking it.</p>

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<p>Does FBI and Marshall’s Office really have to get involved in this? I didn’t know faking of that type was illegal…</p>

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<p>The flip side of Knavish’s post is that while the colleges aren’t interested in nickle-and-dime activities, they are very interested in a lack of character. The fact that you are even posing this question gets you off to a bad start.</p>

<p>Btw, the reason the FBI & Marshall’s office gets involved is that you’ve secured money and benefits (financial aid) via fraudulent statements communicated via the mails.</p>

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<p>why would you lie in the first place.</p>

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<p>Well, the guy did forge an official document and when you use the mail service to send forged documents you can get charged with mail fraud since you are using a govt service to benefit your criminal activity.</p>

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<p>Definitely not worth it. Northstarmom is absolutely right about the interviews. I’ve had a couple already, and I’ve been asked about my activities every time. One asked me to go in to detail about a particular activity. Another interviewer happened to share a same interest as me and we spent most of the time talking about that. It would be a dead give-away if you couldn’t answer their questions, or go in to detail.</p>

<p>Why risk it?</p>

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<p>I can attest to the point of only including things you can speak to. At one time, I had a really cool software development project on my resume. I had worked on the design, but it was never implemented, and as time passed, I basically forgot the details. At every job interview I was asked what the project was about. I ultimately took it off my resume…</p>

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<p>It’s never worth it to lie about these things. “What profiteth a man if he should gain the whole world, but lose his soul?”</p>

<p>If you define success by being a more skilled liar than your peers, then go for it.</p>

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<p>oscar wilde. picture of dorian gray. I assume you’ve read it greybeard? or maybe just quoting from it. Excellent book.</p>

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<p>I have read it, but Oscar and I are actually quoting from the same source (Mark 8:6, in the Bible).</p>

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<p>oh yes that’s right. I feel nice and stupid now :p</p>

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<p>There’s nothing stupid about recognizing a passage from a great book like “The Picture of Dorian Greybeard.”</p>

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<p>go for it if your that desperate. but make sure you don’t lie about anything extreme like you were an astronaut student living in outer space in the space station studying the effects of the green house effect.</p>

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<p>If they’re small, as you said, they probably will not matter much in the admissions decision. If, however, it comes out that you faked them, you’re screwed. bad, bad idea.</p>

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<p>do it and tell us how it turns out.</p>

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<p>When I was in law school, a guy in one of the classes ahead of mine circulated a resume that claimed he had been president of his college class (he had actually been vice president). He got caught; a job offer was withdrawn, and the incident was reported to the bar examiners. </p>

<p>His excuse was that he used a typesetter for his resume, and the typesetter inadvertently omitted “V.” for the title. (That’s where I lost track of the story.)</p>

<p>Here’s the black letter definition of fraud: Making a materially false statement of fact with the intent to induce someone to do something, or to refrain from doing, something, as a result of which the person acts or refrains from acting in reasonable reliance on the false statement.</p>

<p>Don’t kick off your legal career with a fraud. Lawyers get disbarred for fraud.</p>

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<p>"Is it WORTH Risking It? </p>

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<p>Are the college activities you’ve done during college years all recorded in your transcript? If not, do professional/grad. schools check whether you lied about your commitment to those activities?(For e.g. by emailing to the club president or phone calling)</p>

<p>*NOTE: My definition of activities exclude research and volunteering, but more like frats, math/biology/chemistry/science club, sports club, etc.</p>

<p>So, here’s the question. Would it be worth faking these kind of small activities?"</p>

<p>Um…no. Is this the same person that cheated?</p>