<p>Okay, is he out of the race…is it a forgone conclusion that Hillary has the nom?</p>
<p>The airwaves were buzzing with a call for Hillary to drop out after Iowa? Should there be similar calls for Obama or Edwards to drop out?</p>
<p>Well, one thing is certain-- the Democrats, once again, blindly followed the media hype. We never learn. I suspect both Obama and Edwards are out, sad to say. I honestly don’t think anybody can stop Hillary and Bill. Hopefully, if she gets the nomination, she can win the election, but I have my doubts. My 2 cents.</p>
<p>As long as the Clintons can successfully race-bait (all they have to do is put Obama and MLK in the same sentence often enough), Obama will be toast.</p>
<p>[How</a> Clinton hit pay dirt - Las Vegas Sun](<a href=“http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/jan/20/how-clinton-hit-pay-dirt/]How”>How Clinton hit pay dirt - Las Vegas Sun News)</p>
<p>mini: do you live on the FIFTH rock from the Sun?</p>
<p>Well, I don’t really think Obama needs her help in that direction. 
He really does need to get more concrete about the issues at this point. The evangelical rhetoric will get him just so far. He needs to start focusing on the issues now, in very real and concrete terms.</p>
<p>IMO, Obama has already lost the nomination because of racism. It doesn’t matter who mentions it. Racism, especially of African Americans, still runs very deep in our society. People still tell their kids to lock the door when they see a dark colored person on the street.</p>
<p>Continually reminding us his father is Kenyan is an indirect way to say “He’s a ■■■■■■■ Don’t forget.”</p>
<p>lets see we have a few states with minimal populations making decisions for the rest of us</p>
<p>not a forgone conclusion at all</p>
<p>As of last night’s results (Nevada-both parties had caucuses and South Carolina had the GOP primary)</p>
<p>For the Reps:</p>
<p>Magic Number 1,191 </p>
<p>Romney 72
McCain 38
Huckabee 29
Thompson 8
Paul 6
Giuliani 2
Hunter 1</p>
<p>For the Dems:</p>
<p>Magic Number 2,025 </p>
<p>Clinton 210
Obama 123
Edwards 52
Kucinich 1
x-Biden 0
x-Dodd 0
Gravel 0
x-Richardson 0</p>
<p>oboat: Thanks for posting that. I’ve been searching for those numbers and couldn’t find them. That’s helpful.</p>
<p>I heard on NPR this morning that Obama actually ended up with one more delegate from Nevada despite Hillary’s popular vote win.</p>
<p>Democrats
[Election</a> Center 2008: Delegate Scorecard - Elections & Politics news from CNN.com](<a href=“Election Center 2008: Delegate Scorecard - Elections & Politics news from CNN.com”>Election Center 2008: Delegate Scorecard - Elections & Politics news from CNN.com)</p>
<p>Republicans
[Election</a> Center 2008: Delegate Scorecard - Elections & Politics news from CNN.com](<a href=“Election Center 2008: Delegate Scorecard - Elections & Politics news from CNN.com”>Election Center 2008: Delegate Scorecard - Elections & Politics news from CNN.com)</p>
<p>“IMO, Obama has already lost the nomination because of racism.”</p>
<p>Could it be that he is just an empty suit?</p>
<p>[RACIAL</a> STEREOTYPES ARE DEEPLY EMBEDDED IN OUR CULTURE - Yahoo! News](<a href=“http://news.yahoo.com/s/ucas/20080120/cm_ucas/racialstereotypesaredeeplyembeddedinourculture]RACIAL”>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ucas/20080120/cm_ucas/racialstereotypesaredeeplyembeddedinourculture)</p>
<p>What a coincidence. Currently posted on Yahoo as
it’s feature article.</p>
<p>are you implying that all who are opposed to Obama subscribes to that? or the only way we can show that we are above those things is by supporting him?</p>
<p>Not at all. The Yahoo article and my thoughts are that racism is unconscious in most people, and hopefully by making people aware this phenomenon exists, they will rise above it.</p>
<p>I also agree that if he were Caucasian, some may not like him, or just prefer another candidate.</p>
<p>However, RACE is a bigger issue in this election than anyone wants to acknowledge.</p>
<p>“are you implying that all who are opposed to Obama subscribes to that?”</p>
<p>No, I am SAYING, not implying, that 1) every reminder that Obama is Black plays into the thought that an African-American can’t win because OTHER people won’t vote for one; 2) that he is the candidate of the African-American community, just like Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton; 3) people would like to excuse their own racism by saying that Black people can’t get things done (hence Hillary’s comment about MLK), 4) and, yes, there are indeed enough overt racists left to go around. </p>
<p>All the Clintons have to do is PRAISE Obama as a fine representative of his race and he’s toast. (That’s what did it in New Hampshire.)</p>
<p>It all depends on what happens in California, New York and Florida…there you go.</p>
<p>If he were Caucasian he would have been ripped by now. His drug use (remember inhaling by Clinton and alleged use by Bush), his association with ‘outside’ the spectrum pastor, his dealings with Rezko (we spent $80 million investigating white water), his understanding of the role of the President, his comparison with Reagan.</p>
<p>You keep on talking about race, but let me tell you when the race got injected. When he sought and got the endorsement from Oprah (Oprah chose race over her long time belief of feminism), when all the black organizations lined up after him, when his supporters/surrogates talking trash on TV that he didn’t win NH because whites did not vote for him. The race got injected when he started talking about MLK - he was in diapers then and being of Kenyan dissent he has no clue of what the Civil Right struggle was. In my opinion he is the one who is trying to exploit his color.</p>
<p>Yep, agree with simba. ^ If he were Caucasian, he wouldn’t even be in the running at this point. </p>
<p>An interesting article in the NY Times today about Obama’s 26 year old speech writer, and his opening line for Obama when he won the Iowa primary: “They said this day would never come.” The speech writer and Obama agreed that the line “would have multiple meanings to multiple people,” and specifically would relate to “the day that would never come, when an African American would be winning the first primary in a white state.”</p>
<p>Certainly, Obama and his campaign people have consistently reminded us that he is a black man. The fact that he is has definitely not hurt him in this campaign.</p>