<p>i find smoking hot</p>
<p>Girls who smoke = big plus</p>
<p>smoking is sexxxxxyyyy</p>
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<p>I understand where you are coming from, but aren’t you judging people with such blanket statements? Personally, I don’t smoke and think it is bad for you, but are you really going to judge a human being’s character based on a decision like that? I would surely hope not. </p>
<p>Personally I just think you are coming off as a bit ignorant and extreme.</p>
<p>Live and let live.</p>
<p>Seeing someone smoke makes makes me feel sort of sad and (unless they are a teenager who is probably not thinking about the future ; cc teens are apparently the exception) it is a startling and public reminder of the power of addiction. I used to smoke. This was many years ago, and while pulling very long hours on call, I would smoke and dring coffee RIGHT IN THE HOSPITAL! That blows my mind now, especially here in California where you can’t even smoke in the park.</p>
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I don’t understand where you’re coming from. CGM wasn’t really making any blanket statements. She was making direct responses to what the OP was saying. I also don’t think it’s right to judge a human being’s character based on his/her decision to smoke, but that wasn’t what CGM was doing. I definitely think some of the OP’s comments were classless (the ones not directly related to his smoking habits) and were in fact revealing of his character.</p>
<p>I don’t smoke, but to the girls who say they wouldn’t date a smoker:
I’m guessing you are not yet sexually active, and most likely boring, super happy, “nice” girls that would suck in bed. I even like lighting up a cigar on a special occassion to celebrate or cigarette after making love, even though I don’t smoke otherwise.</p>
<p>I would, and have dated a smoker. I don’t generally like cigs, but for whatever reason, cooler better looking people smoke.</p>
<p>“cooler better looking people smoke”</p>
<p>haha, i wish it weren’t true, but it definetly is. adds sexy points for guys…</p>
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<p>can’t have it both ways…</p>
<p>As a guy, I would never consider dating a girl who smoked, probably regardless of her good looks or personality. I think to me, there is no bigger repulsion than someone who smokes. I’ll be honest… when I see someone who smokes or even smell it on them, this is what I associate them with just at first glance even though they are seldomly all true:</p>
<p>-Someone who is trashy with no morals and along the lines of seeing a druggy on the street, and being ‘under class’.
-Someone who does not care about themselves or their health when the harmful effects of smoking are so well known
-Someone who does not care about the health of anyone around them (if they smoke around other people, and many still do)
-Plus, the smell is horrible on their breaths, their clothes, their car,s and their homes, and it makes you want to avoid them.</p>
<p>On top of it all, it ruins your teeth, your health, your looks, and as with any addiction, it can ruin friendships and relationships. The first few of those if not the last are simple facts that you can’t ignore. And according to life insurance companies, who have a vested interest in keeping you alive <em>wink</em>, people who smoke a pack a day have their life spans shortened by a whopping 10 years on average which is actually more than your average drug user. They also have no reason to lie. Bottom line, there’s simply no reason to smoke and every reason not to.</p>
<p>diesel, I should’ve been more clear about that. I stand by my first point…yes, because this is a public forum, people can say whatever they want. However, to correct my second point, while the OP has the right to his own opinion and can say what he wants, he should do it in a civilized manner. There is no need for him to be using profanity.</p>
<p>Regardless, both his post and my response to it were deleted by a moderator (thankfully).</p>
<p>"As a guy, I would never consider dating a girl who smoked, probably regardless of her good looks or personality. I think to me, there is no bigger repulsion than someone who smokes. I’ll be honest… when I see someone who smokes or even smell it on them, this is what I associate them with just at first glance even though they are seldomly all true:</p>
<p>-Someone who is trashy with no morals and along the lines of seeing a druggy on the street, and being ‘under class’.
-Someone who does not care about themselves or their health when the harmful effects of smoking are so well known
-Someone who does not care about the health of anyone around them (if they smoke around other people, and many still do)
-Plus, the smell is horrible on their breaths, their clothes, their car,s and their homes, and it makes you want to avoid them.</p>
<p>On top of it all, it ruins your teeth, your health, your looks, and as with any addiction, it can ruin friendships and relationships. The first few of those if not the last are simple facts that you can’t ignore. And according to life insurance companies, who have a vested interest in keeping you alive <em>wink</em>, people who smoke a pack a day have their life spans shortened by a whopping 10 years on average which is actually more than your average drug user. They also have no reason to lie. Bottom line, there’s simply no reason to smoke and every reason not to."</p>
<p>While I wholeheartedly understand where you’re coming from, I can’t stop feeling sorry for your inability to see beyond everything you’ve mentioned. There’s so much more to people than their addiction to smoking ;)</p>
<p>well keep in mind that this is an internet forum, all these people may go for a girl in real life who smokes even if theoretically/philosophically they are against it. real-life attraction can do a lot to a person ;)</p>
<p>I like the LOL-value of this thread.</p>
<p>I asked people for their opinions, and instead citygirlsmom decided to give me a lecture on my smoking.</p>
<p>Then when she starts to lose the argument the feds come in.</p>
<p>For every action there is an opposite and equal reaction…</p>
<p>I don’t like confrontations, but I’m good at them.</p>
<p>Don’t try to play me.</p>
<p>Anyway, I thank all of you for your opinions, even if you disagreed, because that’s why I posted this thread.</p>
<p>But it seemed like in the beginning of the post, many were opposed to smokings sexual appeal. Now it seems to be turning around…</p>
<p>Is dating really that practical? What about love? What if you fell in love with a person who has flaws and bad habits?..</p>
<p>Oh, trust me, you can and probably will fall for someone with lots of bad habits one day… I know from personal experience on this one…</p>
<p>wow, you asked and then get all huffy</p>
<p>and its not turning around, just that the smokers need to justify their addictions and icky habits</p>
<p>go ahead and smoke, whatever makes you feel all special and classy</p>
<p>most people can feel that way without a crutch</p>
<p>and you know, sure you can fall in love with someone who doesn’t bath either, but don’t think you will be happy for very long</p>
<p>Um, comparing people who smoke to people who don’t bath is a BIT much… The 2 guys I’ve dated in the past year were both smokers (one primarily cigars, one cigarettes) and although my relationships with both of them have ended, it had absolutely nothing to do with the smoking whatsoever. One of them was a really sweet guy that it just didn’t work out with, and one turned out to be just kind of a bad person who led me on for a long time. Your personality doesn’t really have anything to do with whether or not you smoke. I know lots of people who smoke and they are just as diverse as people who don’t: some of them are a$$holes and some are really nice sweet people.</p>
<p>I can personally vouch for b4nnd20 and Onomotopoeia’s points: I swore I’d never date a smoker, for all the reasons listed and for another health reason: my asthma. Then an interesting, intelligent guy came along, and he happened to be a smoker. The chemistry was good and life is short, so I gave it a chance and I wound up dating a smoker. Sh** happens, right? </p>
<p>In response to Onomotopoeia’s comment about love and bad habits: Everyone has bad habits. It doesn’t have to be smoking. No one is perfect. Trying to change bad habits, especially addictive ones like smoking, can destroy a relationship. It’s fine to fall in love with someone who has bad habits, you just have to make sure they’re ones you can put up with, and ones that aren’t dangerous to you or your health.</p>
<p>To the OP: I think this thread makes pretty clear the (obvious) common sense answer to your question: it will vary from woman to woman. Despite stereotypes, there is no way that one thing will “turn on” or “turn off” all women. Smoking will drive some women away from you; others may be more attracted to you because of it. Either way, it’s not healthy, but it’s your life.</p>