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I don’t think she was losing. For the record, I don’t think cussing someone out is a great way to handle a confrontation. I don’t think you should be worrying about smoking turningoff a women…your other habits are enough to do it.</p>
<p>Smoking’s disgusting. Granted, I’m a guy, but I’d never even consider a girl who smokes.</p>
<p>I don’t care if you smoke, smoke until your lungs are pitch black for all I care, I won’t ever try to discourage you from it, just make sure you do it way the hell away from me.</p>
<p>If I like the girl, I wouldn’t care if she smokes or not. I smoke myself ocassionally.</p>
<p>What other habits?!!
Why don’t you just insult me directly instead of saying " I think " " Well for the record" If you want to insult me go ahead, just don’t get written up by your beloved moderators…</p>
<p>Thanks to the people who gave their opinions. For those of you who are new to the forum, I asked the question " Is smoking a turnoff for women" But let’s just change it to " Is smoking a turnoff", lots of guys have been giving their opinion too and that’s cool…</p>
<p>I probably wouldn’t. My grandma is dying of lung cancer right now because she smoked her whole life, so unless I had really really good chemistry with a smoker I wouldn’t date him. Just out of curiosity, why do you smoke? Because I don’t see any pluses to it.</p>
<p>Uh…what if he smoked hemp? Occasionally?</p>
<p>That’s still cool right?</p>
<p>mandi, it’s enjoyable and social.</p>
<p>hemp? lol!</p>
<p>I don’t think any of my friends smoke, and i wouldn’t hang out with them if they did… ever. It reaks.</p>
<p>Haha, Hemp is a good source of “fiber”… ;)</p>
<p>well, gee, my D showed me this thread and sometimes we people that have been around a bit longer than the 17 year olds who think smoking is all hip and cool might just have a different perspective</p>
<p>she can smoke all she wants, thinking it is social, the more you smoke, the more isolated you will be, sitting in the allley with all the other social butterflies</p>
<p>as well, sometimes we parents have helped kids going through some pretty tough times, here on the collegelife thread, guess we shouldn’t bother because we are gee, not paying for any of this college stuff and have no idea what to do about depression</p>
<p>should just let the wise old 19 year olds who say, just drink more, have free reign</p>
<p>since guys are posting as well… I definitely would not date a girl who smokes – for many of the above reasons. Smoking makes a person and anyone they’re around smell awful, I wouldn’t really want to cuddle with an ashtray, and, frankly, smoking is going to cause her to age more quickly. Look at a 30-year-old woman who smokes and compare her to a 35-year-old non-smoker – guess who most likely looks younger!
Additionally, the fact that she smokes <em>may</em> (note the MAY part ;)) indicate something about her personality (i.e., that she cannot stand up to peer pressure, that her morals are somewhat weak, etc.) and most of those qualities are not particularly attractive to me in a girl.
Finally, my dad is a pulmonologist, so I’ve heard many a horror store of smokers, second hand smoking, etc. and what those things do to you. There is simply no way I would bring a smoker home. I find them genuinely repulsive… although they can be very nice as people, but there are more than enough people in the world to meet who aren’t smokers and who aren’t a health risk to be around!</p>
<p>P.S.</p>
<p>Did I mention I get severe headaches around people who smoke?
Just think about that next time you smoke… you’re not only slowly poisoning people around you but causing them physical pain as well…
See why it’s outlawed in public in California?</p>
<p>It’s not outlawed in public in California. It might become illegal to smoke in public parks, but even that is a far shot.</p>
<p>I’m a smoker, and I agree with all the negative things said – regarding peer pressure, though, I’d just like to add that I stayed away from drinking until I was of legal age, and got a lot of flak for it. Why I started smoking? Well, try not to when your ENTIRE, and I mean ENTIRE circle of family and friends consider it as natural as breathing (whereas the bad side of alcohol showed itself more overtly). The emphasis should be on helping adults quit, imho, not try and make kids think it’s “cool to say no”. It doesn’t work. If anything, ridiculous (cigarette company funded!) anti-smoking ads served to make me and my friends feel as if falling for THAT kind of organized influence was like buying the hook, line and sinker of a commercial. As you mature, you become more open to the actual message in the ad.</p>
<p>Apumic:
Second-hand cigarette smoke is damaging to some extent, yes. But so is driving a gasoline-powered car - and that affects far more people, on a far bigger scale, than smoking does. The one doesn’t make the other acceptable, obviously, but I think it’s important to understand the absurd consequences of this individualistic bias where we react more to slightly harmful things affecting individuals, while ignoring, downplaying or downprioritizing far more crucial issues simply because we fail to consider them in a long-term perspective.</p>
<p>I’m not happy about smoking. I’ve tried to quit many a time. It is good that there’s social pressure against smoking, but at the same time, there’s no need for getting on that righteous horse when you in all likelihood have a guilty luxury of your own when consuming and releasing fossile fuels because the bus isn’t a comfy option (bus pass kid myself).</p>
<p>Ugh, I can’t believe I took the time to type this, it’s such a ridiculous issue. I’ll smoke in designated areas. You’ll stay away from those designated areas. Then we both start focusing on the stuff that actually poses a problem for people beyond those who can afford a) smoking and b) the time to get upset about it.</p>
<p>I definitely agree. Adults need to quit before they can tell kids not to.</p>
<p>I watched my aunt die of lung cancer. that’s reason enough for me to not smoke or date a smoker.</p>
<p>Once again, in response to post #91</p>
<p>I love paternalism.</p>
<p>Ok, since we’re all honest here and I have an itch for saying socially inappropriate things at times, I’ll say that I find smokers as intriguing as I find people that object to it off-putting. Much of it is cultural - we just don’t have that whole OH MY GOD SMOKING IS THE SATAN mentality in Europe, so for me, Americans that have a strong emotional commitment against smoking come off as straight-laced, up-tight righteous people that wouldn’t be relaxed enough to hang out with. All false, obviously – but as is the idea that all smokers are brainwashed people hanging onto the image of “cool” with their bare nails.</p>
<p>Not everyone who doesn’t want to date a smoker is up-tight. For me, personally, something about it’s just a total turn-off. I don’t see the point in it and think some aspects of it are just kinda gross, but I also don’t go around lecturing my friends that smoke.</p>
<p>But I do have to admit that I really like the smell of some types of cigarettes and cigars. I don’t know what kind they are, but they smell just like the cigarettes my papaw smoked (he rolled his own and always smoked outside). But yeah, that smell makes me think of him.</p>
<p>Frrrph: The you-stay-in-your-corner-I’ll-stay-in-mine mentality only works half the time. I’m an asthmatic, and cigarette smoke aggravates my lungs. I can feel the effects for up to a week, depending on how I was exposed. </p>
<p>So, what happens when we’re both rather fond of the same band? Concert venues generally allow smoking. Since I obviously can’t prevent everyone at the concert from smoking, I’m left with a choice. I can go see the band I want to see, and deal with being uncomfortable while I’m there and for a couple days after, or I can choose to let other people’s habits keep me from doing what I’d like to. </p>
<p>I’m not trying to chastise, I’m just pointing out that in many places, public spaces are open to smokers. So just avoiding designated areas is not a solution for people who don’t wish to be around smokers.</p>
<p>Lorax, I wouldn’t hold it against you or anyone else to let me (and smokers in general) know that you’re having asthma problems if there is no designated area. That’s completely understandable. Smokers aren’t some strange people from the planet of no-care - some of us try and be responsible with something we know is destructive. I never smoke around kids or seniors, indoors, or in cramped spaces.</p>
<p>I keep coming back to this analogy, but I just wish I could direct the same kind of critique against car owners. I’ve seen people come up to smokers and go off in a tirade about how bad it is – yet those of us who have a beef with emissions from cars can’t well go up to people stepping out of their car and berate/inform them about the problems WE see. It’s a social attitude.</p>
<p>Well…the way I see it, most people have to drive to get where they need to be. But smoking really doesn’t have a point. It doesn’t do anything for you until you actually start and it costs a lot of money (unless you don’t smoke that often)…and isn’t particularly good for you…so it’s just one of those things that’s easy to attack.</p>