Actually among the nationa liberal arts colleges suggested, some are top 50, for example:
Mount Holyoke
Sewanee: The University of the South
Dickinson
Connecticut College
I think if we go beyond USNWR, some others would show up as well. All of this just goes to your original point that there’s really not much difference between #45 and #85 or #125.
So I was browsing their wesite and found the data that their business school only have a average of 1429 sat and 3.69 gpa (this is not low, but compare to their whole school’s admitted gpa its pretty low), then I did some research and found out that BBA is something you study after 2 years??? which its little bit confusing to me, so you don’t enter Emory’s business school directy then you can do business after 2 years? I am really confuse at wheather the sat and gpa applies to first year or after the 2 year thing.
I am also really confusing about what is a BBA program? is this a undergraduate thing or is this a graduate thing?
Aren’t you going for communications?
Some schools are not direct admit - UVA, UGA, and UNC as three - meaning you get into the school and start in the major. You have to transfer in after starting.
If you don’t get in the major, you have to find another at the school.
Emory says this - in essence you go in pre-BBA and have to do well:
Students complete an intent to matriculate, with criteria including both academic performance as well as leadership and engagement. While we seek students who have displayed academic aptitude for business pre-requisite courses, we also look for students who are motivated to expand their perspectives and stretch their abilities—inside and outside of the classroom.
You also have significant need - your family is paying $40K and Emory is $90k. You made it seem like you don’t have need.
If there’s a $50K delta, it is impossible for you to consider Emory. You simply cannot go unless you have need aid.
I’m not sure where you got the statistics, but no one is admitted out of high school into the Goizueta school.
Stats for Emory - the 25th percentile is 1480 with nearly 2/3 applying. The average unweighted GPA is 3.84.
Emory would be a reasonable reach for you but a reach. I wouldn’t expect you to get in - but if you can’t afford it, why would you apply? And getting into Emory doesn’t get you into the B School. Most B Schools are direct - you get into the college, you’re in the B school. You’d be better off finding one you can afford - and there are some out there.
Emory now offers free tuition (not full cost of attendance) for families earning under $200k a year, however it has also changed from need-blind to need-aware in admissions. Logically this means it now becomes a little less reachy for full pay families and a little more reachy for those with need.
Bachelor of Business Administration -undergrad, as explained above you are not admitted to the program directly after high school but only after completing 2 years pre-BBA.
Bachelors in Business Administration. Not a direct admit program.
It’s the college GPA, which is MUCH MUCH harder to get than in HS.
What’s your budget?
What major are you interested in? Communication is very different from Business.
From OP on a different thread - asking about borrowing $150K for an NYU Communications Degree - so we don’t know the actual need but rather what the parents are willing to pay.
“I am an immigrant to the U.S., but I do qualify for fafsa. My parents said the most they can offer me is 40k a year including tuition and housing and food and all the other things. I know NYC is a really expensive place to live in and I heard that student loan is a really good thing for students in the U.S.”
@throwaway468 - have your family fill this out - and it will tell you, should you get in, what Emory will cost.
@throwaway468 Who told you this…they are wrong. The Direct Student Loan for freshmen is $5500 and that won’t make a dent on what your family won’t cover.
The last 6 students to be admitted to BU from my child’s school (2 per year for the last theee years) all had GPA between 3.67-3.88 per Naviance). They all applied ED. No one else from our school has been admitted since 2022, not even any of the 8 applicants who had 4.0 GPA.
I know BU has a tiny admit rate, but from our school admission - assuming you have decent grades, which OP does - seems completely based on whether you ED.
YMMV
I don’t know if they are using weighted or unweighted and of course schools are different (public, private so that impacts) but the CDS shows:
41% with a 4.0
37% with a 3.75 to 3.99
22% with a 3.5 to 3.74
It also shows
92% in the top 10% of a class and 100% in the top 25%.
Don’t know if those are accurate - they seem like they wouldn’t be - no one below the top 25% at an elite school…but then not all schools rank.
Just more data…from the school directly.
Fair. Honestly I saw that # and wasn’t sure what it meant. Thx for explaining.
I would think the schools would report rank - not all - but more than 14%.
That makes sense - athletes, elite private schools. Someone is out of the top 25%.
That is really low. Each year reporting rank seems to grow increasingly uncommon. With that said most public HSs in TX and many in GA still report rank. Last stat I saw said about a third of HSs report rank.
Isn’t rank directly reported from school? I have rank on my offcial transcript.
Yes, rank can be reported by some HSs on transcripts and it sounds like yours does. But, most HSs don’t.
If you don’t want your rank reported on your transcript, you and/or your parents can ask the school to remove it. Some HSs will do this, some won’t.
You need to have your family run an NPC. I provided many above.
Talking about $90k+ colleges ((NYU, BU, Emory, etc) when your budget is $40k is foolish - unless we know you qualify for need.
What do you seek in a college - size, location, weather etc. Let’s find them that cost $40k. I’m not taking rank - I’m talking urban or rural, warm or cold, how big is ok ?
What is the state that you will qualify for in state tuition ? That’s a good place to start.
But there are fine business schools and schools that offer communication that will be $40k or less - many mentioned above.
Until you figure out your demonstrated need - what you can afford, it’s silly to look at schools above $40k.
$40k is what your family is willing to pay.
Colleges will decide what your parents can afford. That’s why you need to have your family do the NPC.
I am from Texas and the 2 public schools I know of around me only report rank for students who submit applications to UT schools, and only if they are in top 10 percent or top 5
If applying to UT…. I know that is not true of all schools but just throwing that out there
Very interesting, and smart/strategic. Thanks for sharing.
BBA is simply the name of the bachelor’s degree which many business schools use, i.e.Bachelor of Business Administration. In a similar way, most engineering schools do not give a BS degree but a bachelor’s degree in the specific engineering major, e.g. BCE for Bachelor of Civil Engineering, or BME for Bachelor of Mechanical Engineering, or BEE for Bachelor of Electrical Engineering, etc.
Many colleges don’t allow students to choose their major until second semester of sophomore year. So, the fact that Emory talks about studying business after 2 years is simply the equivalent of studying in your major, starting in your junior year. It doesn’t mean that you haven’t taken any business or business-related courses in your first 2 years.
Actually at Emory, students begin taking core business courses in the second semester of sophomore year after completing prerequisites in freshman year and the first semester of sophomore year, which are their first 3 semesters of college.
A graduate degree in business is typically an MBA, Master of Business Administration, which is taken after completing 4 years of college and sometimes after some years of job experience after college.
