<p>Did Hillary use the accent when she went to speak to the Rutger’s basketball team?</p>
<p>Oh wait, they never showed up…:o</p>
<p>I rather liked Huckabee’s accent myself. But he’s pandering to the thin crowd.</p>
<p>Reflectivemom - can you cite specifics? Because the only ones I’ve found are the ones I’ve referred to, and you haven’t identified any others. I’m not particularly a fan of H. Clinton, but I am interested in finding our which smears of politicians are fact-based and which are repetition-based, and which are a little of both. This one sounds like it may be the latter, but I haven’t found any actual evidence of H. Clinton’s “accent” changing any more than anyone else’s.</p>
<p>There are plenty of reasons to dislike Ms. Clinton (I’d start with her possible role in the Clinton/Tenet lies of February 1998 that eventually paved the way for the invasion of Iraq). I don’t see any particular reasons to make them up.</p>
<p>Hillary was not in the south when she used her twang at the Sharpton rally, linked to above.</p>
<p>GWB has been a self-identified Texan his whole life. Yeah, it started out as fake, since he’s a silver-spoon WASP, but somewhere along the way he became a Texan. He married a Texan and he obviously loves the place.</p>
<p>Give me a break if anyone can say with a straight face that Mrs. C. is a self-identified Arkansan.</p>
<p>She uses this accent when she is speaking in front of black audiences. I find it alarming on either, or both, of two counts: a) she’s not smart enough to know how it comes off or b) she’s knows exactly how it comes off, and she thinks so little of her targeted audience she doesn’t care.</p>
<p>If Mrs. C. wants to put an end to these so-called “smears,” all she has to do is drop the fake accent. Instead she has the chutzpah to call herself multilingual. Funny lady.</p>
<p>That’s funny. Black voters don’t seem to have a problem with Hillary Clinton, but I’m sure they will appreciate the party of the “old white guys” who gut the Civil Rights office at the Justice Department telling them that they should.</p>
<p>BTW, if her accent is the best shot the Republicans can muster up against Sen. Clinton, they are going to be in for a long election cycle.</p>
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<p>No, it’s not the best shot…not by a long shot. The fake accents just point to her cynicism.</p>
<p>For starters, I don’t think the American people will vote for a cold, mendacious, calculating woman with no soul. I really believe that.</p>
<p>She’s riding high now…but just wait.</p>
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<p>They voted for Dick Cheney. Must be a gender thing.</p>
<p>Seriously, I don’t have a clue how the primaries or the general election will unfold at this point. The polls are utterly worthless because I don’t know that it is possible to identify the “likely” voters at this point.</p>
<p>I would rather a person who has an intellect, over someone who calls himself commander guy…</p>
<p>For Bush, its not just the accent, its the “dumbing” down of vocabulary, using catch phrases, trying to sound all folksy, even in the most inappropriate circumstances, talking to people like we are 5 years old</p>
<p>commander guy? please, that is how a 10 year old boy describes himself playing with his friends</p>
<p>It’s funny to watch people would never vote for Hillary based on relatively trivial or imagined flaws go through all sorts of contortions to justify their stance, exceeded only by the contortions to overlook the very real, very damaging flaws of the Doofus in the White House. Which is why I’m not buying any late please for bi-partisanship or other placating bits of nonsense.</p>
<p>You’ve made your beds with Bush, now lie with him. Don’t ask for quarter because I and many others am surely giving none; your curses, pleas, and tears will all amount to the same thing, which is to say, nothing.</p>
<p>Once again, a gentle reminder: GWB will not be on the ticket in '08. Sorry, guys.</p>
<p>kluge, are really searching for facts ?</p>
<p>If you are, Hilary spoke in her “southern” accent in Manhattan at a civil rights meeting. An African American friend of mine was was highly insulted by this - she believed that adopting this accent implied that Hilary believed African Americans needed her to speak slowly to them.</p>
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<p>Well kluge, thanks for your undying service, but unfortunately, your defense of the indefensible on this thread is proof that you you wouldn’t know a fact if it smacked you in the face - at least not a fact that contradicted your belief that Democrats = good and Republicans = evil … just like the leader of your party.</p>
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<p>Oh, but he will cast a very large shadow over the Republican ticket. There is simply no way to hide from six years of Republican control over all branches of government and the track record of incompetence and corruption. </p>
<p>Sorry, guys.</p>
<p>I don’t buy that.
See Nixon/McGovern ‘72.
Plus, Mrs. C. is a female, and carries a bit o’ baggage, I do believe.</p>
<p>Actually, Obama is doing better than Mrs. C. in recent polls up against Rudy.</p>
<p>I think the better analogy is probably the '76 Carter/Ford race. The Nixon scandals really hadn’t fully bloomed by '72. Similarly, the full extent of the Republican corruption is just now emerging.</p>
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<p>Depends on the poll. Today’s Rasmussen poll has the Clinton/Guiliani matchup at a dead heat. I don’t put any stock in any of those matchup polls at this point. September 2008 is when you want to start paying attention to the general election tracking polls.</p>
<p>The ones that are interesting are the polls that provide some “internals”. The most recent Pew Research polls shows that Clinton has been effective in positioning herself for a general election run, with her strongest support among moderate and conservative Democrats. As you can also see from these breakdowns, the women’s vote could be huge in this election. It’s uncharted water to have a female candidate and I’m not sure the pollsters will have a good handle on predicting female turnout.</p>
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Clinton Obama </p>
<p>32 30 Liberal
33 27 Moderate
42 15 Conservative</p>
<p>30 22 White
46 36 Black</p>
<p>29 26 Male
38 24 Female</p>
<p>36 20 Northeast
25 31 Midwest
40 20 South
31 31 West</p>
<p>34 20 White Evangelical Prot.
27 20 White Mainstream Prot.
32 16 White Catholic
47 35 Black Protestant
19 44 Secular
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<p>For those not following the US Attorneys story that closely, this McClatchey newspapers story about voter fraud prosections in Missouri will shed some light. The US Attorney in this case was a Justice Department hack sent in to replace a US Attorney and push voter fraud indictments before the election. Note that of the 13 districts Karl Rove identified as key targets for voter fraud efforts to suppress the Democratic vote, 9 were districts where US Attorneys were replaced.</p>
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<p><a href=“http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,906439-1,00.html[/url]”>http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,906439-1,00.html</a></p>
<p>plus ca change…</p>
<p>Since the republicans lovers on here can’t really defend their candidates, they try and change the subject to attacking a democrat</p>
<p>THat shows me that they don’t really like their candidates too much, and all they can do is go after a Clinton</p>
<p>When you can’t defend and must attack, shows the rest of us you don’t have much faith in your own people</p>
<p>Interesting</p>
<p>I’d be happy to tell you why any of the 10 men on that stage are better than Hillary Clinton, John Edwards or Barrack Obama. You pick one, and I’ll be happy to defend him.</p>