I am a student that got denied to Saint Mary’s college of California with a 2.9GPA accumulative but 3.5 my final two years of high school and a 1590 SAT. After letting my friend know, who has a 4.5+ accumulative and 2000+ SAT had already been accepted and offered a $25,000 grant. He offered to attempt to bargain with them and say that he will commit to their school if they were to admit me as well. I am worried that he might get his acceptance revoked in this situation, so I am now here to ask if it is likely his acceptance will be revoked and if it is likely that the negotiation would even succeed.
Dumb idea, it will NOT work.
No one student is going to be important enough to a school that they would acquiesce to the student’s random and slightly arrogant demands.
Will his acceptance be revoked? I very much doubt it. He’ll ask the college to accept you, and the college’s reply will politely tell him to take a hike. Your friend may have the higher GPA, but - in recognizing that this wouldn’t work - you’ve displayed more common sense.
Dumb idea that will never work.
You will never find out if you don’t try. Schools already do this sort of thing when they recruit athletes, so why wouldn’t they do it to get a high stat student? I say go for it, and let us know what happens.
Are you a female by any chance? If so, they might think he is trying to get an admittance for his girlfriend, and that might make them wonder if they made a good decison. In fact, even if you’re a boy, same thing. Tell your friend it is very noble, but you can’t allow him to jeopardize his acceptance.
Schools don’t do this kind of negotiation (not even for athletes so far as I know, Zinhead). It’s kind of your friend but useless. Tell him you appreciate his generosity, but you will get into other schools and you don’t want the responsibility of him deciding to attend a school that’s not his best fit just to help you out. He should be making the choice that is best for him without reference to your situation. That’s what a really good friend would say to reciprocate his kind but misguided offer.
Seriously? I’d say accept it as a sweet gesture of support and don’t assume he really means to do this. And no, it won’t work, not for an instant (which is why I ask if you’re serious.)
First of all, St. Mary’s is not a terribly difficult school to get into. Although it was named as “one of the top 380 colleges by Princeton Review last month,” its acceptance rate was 69 percent. The OP’s GPA is a bit low, but the OP’s SAT scores are in the mid 50 percent of accepted test scores. However, St. Mary’s is 41% male and 59% female, so they are desperate for men. The OP looks like they might have slipped in, but, if the OP is a female, she might have been denied because of her gender.
Secondly, from their website, even though the regular decision deadline has passed, St. Mary’s of California is not full and is still accepting applications. They need bodies, particularly male bodies.
http://www.stmarys-ca.edu/undergraduate-admissions/apply-now
Thirdly, if you follow college sports recruiting, every year you will hear stories how a particular athlete was offered a scholarship not necessarily because of their athletic ability, but because it gives a school a hook with a “five-star” athlete that they are friends or family with. Package deals are not uncommon whatsoever.
College admissions, especially at smaller less selective schools like St. Mary’s of California, are very fungible. If the OP’s friend communicated that he would like to attend St. Mary’s of California, but would feel much more comfortable there if the OP were accepted as well, what would the harm be? St. Mary’s of California could look over the OP’s application, and find they missed some important qualities the OP’s possesses, such as friendship with a student they offered $25,000 in grants to. The worst they can say is no.
Nice thought. Absolutely terrible idea.
You hear it in sports recruiting occasionally, but that is an athlete that can help take in millions for their school. It isn’t happening for a regular student. Your friend will look like an idiot if they try this.
Why does that matter? The only person that will know whether or not the question was asked will be the admissions staff at St. Mary’s of California, and they are not legally allowed to comment on individual admissions decisions.
The last time we bought a car, the dealership started out asking for the full sticker. We walked out paying $7,500 less than the sticker which was a couple of grand under their invoice. Negotiating with colleges is the nearest thing to buying a car. If you don’t ask for stuff, you don’t get stuff.
There’s enough misdirection on CC. It’s one thing to tell a kid to inquire about this or that, another to suggest a friend try to strong arm.
None of us- and certainly not this hs friend- knows why OP was denied.
That’s not what fungible means.
And the rest of your comment is off-base as well, imo. This, in particular, is entertainingly wrong:
I’ve never had to beg or convince a dealer I’m worthy to buy a car…if your money is green, you’re in;). It’s not like buying anything else bc the seller gets to choose the buyers, and will even sell to buyers who have no money and bypass those with cash. So, no, not like buying a car IMO!