Is this correct??

<p>Was told today that Wells SATI range was 900 - 1200, honors status to anyone with SAT over 1150.</p>


<p>My D was invited to a dinner in our area hosted by Wells for admitted students. After hearing some other parent(s) talking I asked the rep what the range of SAT scores was for students. While she said she did not yet know the exact range for this year's class, in the past it was 900 - 1200. (and this was not purported to be the middle range - I pressed her)</p>

<p>Honestly meaning no offense to anyone else, we had believed when applying that the standards for admission were higher. Or that at least that there would be some students with higher credentials - higher than my D's. Believe me, she knows that SATs are not the only criteria for intelligence or ability. She knows that because she does NOT do well on standardized tests. But still her scores are significantly higher than that. </p>

<p>Especially in a small, close knit campus, intellectual challenge from your classmates is important if you are to grow. You need peers but also people around you who will stimulate you and motivate you to do better. You also need to know that faculty can confidently aim instruction high enugh for you to reach for it. </p>

<p>Unfortunately after hearing that statistic, my D no longer wants to enroll.</p>

<p>the latest info should be on the web somewhere ...
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<p>I also think Wells is considering (or decided) to go coed ... if that influences your daughter</p>

<p>Wells has decided to go co-ed, it did so last Fall. She was aware of that, as well as the controversy on campus. She thought it was, over all a good thing.</p>

<p>However, she also thought the over all standards were higher. The site you gave says the average SAT is 1110. Average SAT as far as college rankings can mean a lot of things, including the middle 50% or a true average. An 1110 average was not the real concern. What we asked for was the entire range, in other words, what were the scores of other students at the high end. </p>

<p>She simply does not want to be the person with the highest SAT score or GPA at Wells. If there are no other women with scores at least in the 1300s (or higher as in her high school) then where is the challenge? Where will the over all level of instruction be aimed at?</p>

<p>I would contact someone else at Wells in admissions by phone or email to get accurate information. This is what I have from our Barrons book. Lisa</p>

<p>Barron's Profiles of American Colleges 2003 edition gives these stats:
2001-2002 accepted students</p>

<p>Verbal Math</p>

<p>15% below 500 27% below 500
49% 500-599 50% 500-599<br>
31% 600-700 23% 600-700<br>
5% 700+</p>

<p>U.S News W/R 2005 Edition America's Best Colleges</p>

<p>"All the ratings are for the class that entered in the fall of 2003 "
Definition of rating " The 25/75 percintiles for the SAT I or the ACT Composite show the range in which half the students scored: 25 percent of students scored at or below the lower end and 75 percent scored at or below the upper end."</p>

<p>Wells SAT 25/75 percentile 990-1240
Smith SAT 25/75 percentile 1150-1370</p>

<p>So 1240 and 1370 certainly are not the top SAT scores for either school. </p>

<p>Please research your facts and i hope this information helps others.
thanks lisa</p>


<p>I hope too that the information you presented helps others. </p>

<p>We didn't research the facts, but we did pose the question to a woman who worked at admissions and was hosting a dinner supposedly meant to encourage admitted students to come to Wells. One would have thought she'd either know the facts or be able to present the positive analysis you have. I sure as heck wish she had.</p>

<p>I guess it just goes to show how important interviews are, not only for getting into a school but for getting students to attend. I had actively encouraged my D to apply and spoke highly of Wells and women I knew who had gone there. I was hoping that the evening would clinch the deal. So I felt quite let down by the information we were matter of factly given, as well as other things we were told. It litterally kicked the wind out of our sails.</p>


<p>I am a Wells alumna. Most Wells Clubs are extremely active -- certainly more so than others of which I am aware. I suspect that the "admissions" person with whom you spoke may have been an alumna who is active on some alumnae committee rather than from the admissions dep't at the College.</p>

<p>Of course, I've been away for many years but when I attended, most of the faculty had their doctorates from either Ivy Leagues or schools which were better than Ivies in their particular expertise. I went on for my MA/Ph.d. at Vanderbilt where a good many of my graduate-level classes were easier than what I had at Wells. Many of my classmates also have their doctorates -- except for the ones who are judges and research scientists/doctors. I wouldn't worry too much about your kid getting challenged....</p>

If your daughter would be interested in Wells now that the information about the SAT had been cleared up. You could contact the college and tell them about your experience. I bet they would still consider an application from your daughter given the misinformation you received.</p>

<p>It also would be good for them to know about this problem. They are trying to increase admissions and should do something to make sure this doesn't happen again. Everyone I have talked to at the college has been very pleasant and helpful.</p>


<p>MHC48 is the one who received the misinformation.<br>
I am glad you posted it is good to hear of your sucess in graduate school. My daughter will be attending Wells and also plans to go on to get a Ph.d Would you mind telling us what year you graduated? </p>

<p>She attended a summer leadership conference and we went to the "application day". Bringing your credentials, then touring the campus, attending a class, lunch with admissions staff and professors and then receiving a decision is a great experience. During lunch we spoke to various pofessors they were very receptive.</p>

<p>We felt very comfortable there. The campus is really nice it overlooks the lake very beatiful and probably as safe an area as you'll find. The dorms were very nice,really neat dining hall it looks like the one in the "Harry Potter Movies" and the students were friendly. </p>


<p>Thanks Lisa, but though we haven't talked it out fully yet, I kind of got the impression that in her own mind she's moved on now and is no longer considering going to Wells. This weekend she went up with a friend to Brandeis where she was also accepted. I think Brandeis, Colgate and NYU are the schools she's now most seriously thinking about going to.</p>

<p>Of course, they're considerably more expensive and so far haven't offered any aid as Wells did, but if she decides she really wants one of those and I can possibly swing it.... it'll be hard to not give her a chance to go someplace where she feels comfortable and has no doubts about.</p>

<p>If your D is planning to go on to graduate school attending a school that is less expensive (due to FAid etc) can be a good plan. Especially if money is tight. Plenty of people get into great grad schools with out having "ivy league" undergraduate degrees. I know a lot of them.</p>

<p>To aquire a proper amount of knowledge and experience (internships) and to get a decent job now, you need at least MA. ( in my opinion)</p>


<p>I thought I might as well give a real figure here: I am a high school senior (male) who is 89% sure he is attending Wells college next year. My SAT scores were 690 verbal and 780 math (combined 1470). </p>

<p>Should I worry that I may have higher scores than many fellow students there? No.
1) It may help me stand out and develop a good reputation among proffessors.
2) Should I find a lack of academic zeal (unlikely) Wells offers the Cornell exchange program.
3) (and most importantly) SAT scores do not measure any real advantage in life-- many other strengths, skills and talents are far more important to finding success and happiness in life.</p>

<p>P.S. It's all just for the slip of paper they give you at the end of it anyways.</p>

<p>Congratulations, Oren.</p>

<p>I wouldn't be surprized, though if you didn't already stand out anyway, being one of the first few males at Wells. And hopefully you will find the slip of paper at the end far less valuable than the four years of experiences and friendships you leave with.</p>

<p>My D has still not finally decided where to enroll, though I expect we'll sit down and wrap it up after her visit this week to Colgate.</p>

<p>Best of luck in the final decision</p>