Is this the change Obama wants to bring?

<p>LaxAttack, this is just an awful argument. </p>

<p>The University of Chicago needed no reason to bribe Obama. He was a professor here for 10 years, you know. Also, a promotion is hardly anything suspicious. Neither is $1 million toward the highest-ranked hospital in the state. You’re drawing ties where there are none, and simultaneously making yourself look like an idiot.</p>

<p>If you ever actually had to take that rickety ferry in Ketchikan you might feel a little different about the bridge. It will also allow the island to be developed. Not worth $200 Million but $10 Million, maybe.</p>

<p>It looks like most of the stuff posted about Obama, his wife, and his Pastor doesn’t matter in the big scheme of things. Or it could be Hillary’s negative nonsense backfiring.:o</p>

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<p>If this old article doesn’t bother someone, they shouldn’t be bothered by Mrs. Obama’s promotion either :-)</p>

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<p>LaxAttack, Michelle Obama is a 44 year old Harvard Law School graduate working as a VP at a major University Medical Center. She appears to be qualified - possible overqualified - for the job and her pay is pretty average for a person of her qualifications, experience, and job level. You have to work pretty hard to find a “scandal” there. I’ve met lots of much less accomplished guys earning more.</p>

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<p>If that were really true, John Edwards would not have had to drop out of this race. He was a very favorable alternative to Hillary in my book. </p>

<p>But to me, Obama is not so much the Anti-Hillary, as the Anti-Bush!</p>

<p>ahaha it’s so funny when people find out about pork for the first time</p>

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Somewhat off-topic and nothing to do with Obama but - can’t they find a UofC grad qualified for the high-paying position at UofC?</p>

<p>hahahaha, lax, you and simba are basically ■■■■■■.</p>

<p>The facts Laxattack reports look very suspicious, in terms of timing and amount. </p>

<p>Except he is not looking at the facts in the context of the industry. Anyone surprised by a salary of $300,000 + for a healthcare executive, hasn’t been paying attention to their local community. Our local hospital, two campuses and much smaller than the U of Chicago system, pays its VP’s an average of $300 - $600,000 annually. The CEO gets around $1.5 million per year. There may be hospitals that pay in the lower ranges, but healthcare leadership jobs pay well.</p>

<p>corporate execs even at non profits are paid fairly well lax- don’t tell me that is a newsflash to you- aren’t you a business major?</p>

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<p>I have no problem with the pay, I agree she is 100% qualified to earn at least that much. I have a problem with the TIMING of it, and the susequent $1 million “gift” from the govt.</p>

<p>Lax; you’re in a no win position here. I commend you for doing some good investigating. Your findings are extremely valid. The problem is; you aren’t going to convince a certain group of people that Obama’s poop doesn’t stink. No matter what it is. They are so determined to support this man that they will rationalize everything said against him. The more that’s discovered, the more defensive they will become. Because, in order for them to admit that he has shortcomings, they have to admit that maybe they are wrong. Possibly wrong in their opinion as well as their support. Some people just can’t admit when they are wrong. There are plenty on this forum who can admit the shortcomings of each candidate. Even the one they are supporting. However, when it comes to Obama supporters, there are very few, IF ANY, that can admit to him having faults. He is their eternal savior and they won’t admit any differently. </p>

<p>They talk about how Michelle is a Harvard grad and is highly qualified and therefor such a position as “Community Affairs” easily warrants a $300,000+ income. Well, if this is so true, then why did they only pay her so little the year before? No, they won’t go there. They’ll rationalize and say that maybe she signed a contract for “X” amount of years and now she was renegotiating. They will say anything. It has nothing to do with Obama’s political career. Neither does the approved $1 million renovation funding have anything to do with it. Maybe somehow Michelle gained all this divine experience some place and was just worth a whole lot more.</p>

<p>You’re not going to get this through some people’s minds Lax. Not going to happen. There may be some open minded people; secure in themselves to take critique; but the majority of the Obama supporters aren’t going to get it.</p>

<p>You know; I’d like to pose a question. Maybe even make a new thread for input. State the person you ARE MOST LIKELY GOING TO SUPPORT AND VOTE FOR, and then instead of saying WHY, you need to list at least 3 of that candidate’s WEAKNESSES. See, I and many many others here have no problem doing that. I know plenty of McCain supporters who have complaints about him. Things they consider weaknesses. I also know of plenty of Clinton supporters at work and on the net that also have no problems mentioning her weaknesses and shortcomings. I’d like to hear from the Obama crowd. What are his weaknesses.</p>

<p>Instead, all they talk about is that he’s for change! That he graduated Harvard and was president of the Law review. Holy moly. We’re talking about the president of the United States of America. If the GREATEST ACCOMPLISHMENTS of a person’s life is when they were in college; before they ever even had a real job and understood what it was like to have to pay taxes, raise a family, deal with world events, the economy, etc… Then that is one REALLY SAD candidate. Think about it. PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!! The most powerful country in the world. Even when our dollar is at one of it’s weakest points, our country still controls and dictates a vast majority of the world’s economy and political structure. And the number 1 person who you think is the savior of the country; who you can’t think of anything that is considered a weakness; and you get so defensive about even over the smallest innuendos and assertions; and the accomplishments he keeps getting noted for that supposedly makes him such the perfect choice, is what he did in college. That is so sad.</p>

<p>Might as well forget it Lax. None of his “true” supporters who fight every criticism is going to take the challenge to name some of his weaknesses. They will continue to be defensive over everything said about him critical. They will rationalize anything presented to them. They will keep promoting his college achievements; the fact that he was in the state senate. The fact is; he graduated college in 1985. He tool 3 years off from going to law school and became a community organizer. He then spent 3 years in law school. He moves back to Chicago and spent a whole 4 years as a lawyer and college professor. He then goes into the state senate for 8 years. He then goes into the US senate, where after a whole 2 years, he decides to run for president. That’s it Lax. That’s his whole biography since the time he was old enough to vote. The response however will be; “Well, you name what great accomplishments and experiences Clinton or McCain have”. Yea, take your ball and run home. The truth is; Clinton and McCain also don’t have the most impressive resumes in the world either. But they happen to be better than Obama’s. Ooops; I forgot. He did real well in college. Ain’t that special?</p>

<p>Lets not forget his edition of the Harvard Law Review was the least read ever. :)</p>

<p>That’s one of the best, most on the point posts I’ve ever read on CC Christcorp.</p>

<p>Ah, Christcorp steps in with the “You’re disagreeing out of principle, not because my argument was general and poorly-supported and most of my posts are content-free bumper-sticker politics” argument.</p>

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Oh, you mean like Obama’s entire campaign?</p>

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<p>Yes, thank you. An excellent example of what I was talking about.</p>

<p>Hillary wants to give $1Million for a Woodstock museum.</p>

<p>Without offending any Hillary supporters, I am going to ask a question. Has Hillary completely exposed her earmarks?</p>