I leave $2 per work guidance. Low to mid - note motel / hotel - Springhill, Courtyard, Hyatt Place - occasional full service.
When on personal I do two per day of service.
I feel bad for service people. I assume but don’t know that they’re low wage.
I think in the case you are talking about.
Any tips would subsidize the restaurant. They are paying $30. Any tips would not increase the wait staff pay but help the restaurant pay that wage.
I don’t know what would happen if tips would take the wait staff over the $30 an hour threshold. Would they get more than $30 an hour?
I think that is how it works when there is a high hourly wage.
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I don’t think that would be allowed. Tips might be pooled and divided among all staff, but unless it’s an added service charge, which some restaurants charge, I don’t think management can keep it. I’ve heard some states can pay tipped employees a much lower wage than the state/city minimum as long as tips bring them up to minimum wage, but that is not the case in our state. Where my son works as a bartender, he is paid the city minimum wage plus tips.
Just scanned a couple of articles about the L.A. bill. It doesn’t sound like it applies to tipped hotel employees and it goes up gradually until it hits $30 in 2028, just in time for the Summer Olympics in L.A.
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I have seen posts on social media (maybe from waiters?) that suggest a tip - move the decimal over, etc. Then add a snotty comment that if you can’t afford to tip, don’t go out to eat.
I can afford to go out to eat. And tip - I’m actually a big tipper. But with that prevailing attitude, I’d rather eat at home. I know it’s not everyone, and it’s probably a stupid social media thing, but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth (pun not intended).
Tipping culture is going to be the beginning of the end of some restaurants.
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Two of my three kids have worked as servers and/or bartenders. In PA, $2.83/hr is the minimum wage for tipped workers, $7.25/hr is minimum wage. Please tip your servers and bartenders in PA.
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In Chicago: “Tipped workers (workers who receive tips as part of their wage, like restaurant servers) have a minimum wage of $12.62 for employers with 4 or more employees. If a tipped worker’s wages plus tips do not equal at least the full minimum wage, the employer must make up the difference. “
Full minimum wage here is $16.60/hr
H and I had an impromptu casual lunch last weekend. Two sandwiches and two beers- $70. (And the side was potato chips).
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I think that’s terrible! I will definitely tip generously if I’m ever in PA. Minimum wage in Minneapolis is $15.97/hr and tipped employees are paid at least that plus tips.
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I don’t think anyone here is saying they wouldn’t tip waitstaff at restaurants or bartenders.
The pushback is about tipping in situations where no real service is provided, like merely ringing up a self-service order.
Even when it comes to waitstaff, though, how much tipping is appropriate? Should people now be tipping 25%? 30%? Some on social media are even suggesting 50%.
At what point does it become too much?
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I admit I am over tipping now which to me is 25, 30%, 35%. But I often am on the road alone - will linger at lunch while they bring me 5 iced teas etc.
I guess it’s in my face so much now I’m getting used to it.
Then there’s the entire tax vs no tax thing - do you tip on tax or not ? When you get suggestions, some include on their calculator. Some don’t exclude.
Pre Covid I was at 15% to 18% for full service restaurants and 10% where I order at the counter and they bring me the food, fill drinks, bus table. Post Covid it’s 18-20% rounded up. 10% still for limited service.
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I do not tip on tax. I made my ex hairdresser remove expensive hair products from the total that had an auto tip based on the total cost, not the service cost and not the tax. The checkout lady at reception gave me a less than sweet smile when I asked for that - I finally left that salon - snooty and not that great.
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You’re right. No tip on product. That’s a pure money grab.
Place we just ate had an auto calc. 18, 20, 22 - calculated pre tax. U actually left more because I thought - that’s how it should be. They got an extra buck or whatever based on reverse psychology.
I always tip based on the total without tax. Why should I tip on the government cut?
25% is for exceptional service. 20% is fine, 18% is fine at a casual place. I will never tip 30%.
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Just coming back from Quebec. 15% is the norm and several servers noted that.
Everyone had a machine and most had two options - 15, 18%. A few had 20%. I think one 22%. Service was impeccable and I usually did the select my own.
Their published amounts are pre tax by law vs mixed at home - some do, some don’t.
Expectations of tips are very reasonable. 15% or so sales tax - not so much!
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Recently visited the 3 maritime provinces. Payment machine always had an option to set a customized percentage for tips, or tip a specific amount.
Every time I leave the country and dine out, I am reminded how much I LOVE the portable credit card machines—-no stranger walking away with your card, going to some unknown location and hopefully doing nothing unseemly. Foreign visitors must lose their minds in US restaurants!!
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I ordered from Whole Foods (Amazon) for delivery. On my bill it had “suggested tip” of $10. I was fine with it until the delivery was getting later and later due to the delivery issue (it showed my grocery were packed waiting to be delivered). After an hour, I decided to edit the tip amount, but it wouldn’t let me. After 2 hours, I decided to cancel the order. Amazon refunded me the amount minus the tip. Why am I tipping for a service I didn’t get? I was petty enough that I went on AmEx and asked for the $10 refund.
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@oldfort -I’d be annoyed about being charged a tip on services never received, too.
A tip reminder or fyi - I donated to a Go Fund me for someone local my son knows who had a home fire. When I entered my donation amount, the total also included a 16% Go Fund Me tip - 16%! It wasn’t intuitive on the page but I googled how to adjust that tip - lower it or none at all - and was able to do something much more reasonable - be sure to look for this if you donate that way!
Can you imagine the $ cash flow if people just accept that 16% tip?!
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what are you tipping on?