took a piano examination that was held by the Associated Board of Royal school of Music.and received a Merit on it.
took a violin examination that was held by NYSSMA.and i received an excellent rating on it.
played at a recital that was held at Hunter College.and received a Gold Prize.
a member of a city astronomy club
a school’s newspaper writer who write articles about Astronomy.
International Club (I am just a member, but my GC said I am very active in activities like fundraising or food fair on my recommendation letter, don’t know if that helps O_o)</p>
<p>Community service:
volunteer at a kindergarten every summer.(except for sophomore year 's summer)</p>
<p>Job: Tutor for children.</p>
<p>Btw, does UMICH even look at my ECs? or just my essays instead?
summer program: NYU Pre-college summer program (Human Physiology) [2009]
Received scholarship for this program.</p>
<p>Not a reach – more like a match. RD does make it more difficult to stand out only because a number of the spots are taken, but your stats are very much in line with U Mich. and your ECs are quite strong. U Mich knows what kind of dedication it takes to perform musically at your level and maintain a high GPA. If you are in the top 10% and are at a strong school and have taken a rigorous program, you should be a very strong candidate. Yes, your ECs and accomplishments, especially at that regional award-winning level, will help you and you will receive extra points in the way they calculate your overall admit strength. Make sure you include strong recommendations and get all the materials in THIS WEEK and you may have a decent shot. If your articles are strong, I would include one as a supplemental on the app.</p>
<p>Do not let hearsay discourage you if you like UMich. Your profile suggests a fit. Awesome musical opportunities as well for high level performers. Good luck!</p>
<p>No offense dude, but I don’t think you know what you’re talking about with numbers like these. If you can produce your sources, I stand corrected, but I seriously doubt that one needs a 3.95 to have a solid shot at RD. But although I’m skeptical about your numbers, I concur with your answer; early rounds are, for obvious reasons, statistically (and often enough, qualitatively) more conducive to acceptances.</p>
<p>I’m with you, Srrinath. Those stats truly seem like numbers pulled out of thin air. If, by some strange circumstance they are true, I’ll eat my words, but I doubt it. Those stats are “solid,” I suppose, but I definitely think you’re setting them too high. You might as well say a 4.0/36 is solid. Yeah, we know those people are pretty likely to get in. </p>
<p>Anyway, Yipyip0901, you have way more, and impressive, ECs than I did, and I was accepted early on in the EA process. Granted, I have the in-state thing and higher stats, but yours are respectable and with great essays, I think you’ll get in. It’s worth a shot, at the very least. Just do it soon. Like, yesterday soon.</p>
<p>I don’t know guys, Blackpen is often intuitively cct. on some of these things and I have seen kids rejected with 4.0 RD. However, I am dealing with the individual in this post, not the statistical trend, and I am taking a guess that if he’s in the top 10 at his school in NYC at a 92 AND received a scholarship for a NYU summer program AND is performing at that level in music, there’s a very good chance his school is one of the NYC school programs that UMich is known to love and for which it has a wider swath of statistical admit range. Just a hunch.</p>
<p>Solid stats means that given everything else is satisfactory, the applicant is a Match or better.
I got these numbers from what I’ve seen on this forum.</p>
<p>This doesn’t mean a thing. For all you know a 4.0 might be based off grade inflation or a relatively less rigorous courseload. If your intent was to demonstrate that RD makes it tougher to get in there are better ways to do it; ways that don’t involve anecdotal ‘evidence’ and which do not give future applicants the illusion of entitlement. I could just as simply argue the converse and say I have known Early Response to let in applicants with a 2.99 GPA (namely, me) but I choose not to because (a) my grades say much more about my individual set of academic circumstances in high school than about an application cycle involving thousands (b) the averages for those thousands of applicants would tell you that I’m a severe outlier (c) factors other than grades have huge weights in the whole process. Anyway, going back to the question at hand, I’m confident that while ER and RD would have a statistical difference in the rate of acceptance, a deserving student who applies in either round would have a similar chance of getting in. For future applicants who may happen to read this however, do consider applying early. UofM’s application is not particularly difficult and applying early means that you hear back considerable early in the process. Having an acceptance from UofM way back in November certainly reduced my tensions about the rest of the application season. And it follows that if you hear early of your acceptance, you’ll also be able to receive faster decisions from the selective communities on campus; before some of my RD friends had even turned in their applications, I knew of my acceptance to LSA Honors & Ross PA. So future applicants, unless there’s some compelling reason that keeps you from doing so, apply early.</p>
With all due respect, it does mean SOMETHING, just not EVERYTHING. I have seen kids (meaning I personally KNOW kids) from a rigorous program from a preferred school where I live rejected with very high stats RD. I also know of one valedictorian in my city from an equally strong school who was rejected RD. I am not speaking to a trend or suggesting it is anything other than anecdotal, and you will note I am NOT discouraging the OP from applying because there’s much more to an application than the stats.</p>
<p>However, any guidance counselor worth his or her salt in my neck of the woods WILL (and DOES) COUNSEL STUDENTS to apply early to Mich because it is KNOWN to be statistically more viable EA than RD, but no one can quantify exactly how MUCH more viable. </p>
<p>So while it is “possible” to be rejected RD with a 4.0, I still think the OP should (by now have) applied because I feel like he still has a respectable shot.</p>
<p>You will notice that I totally agree with this point. My contention is only that I disapprove of people thinking a 4.0 (regardless of where you come from) should translate to a sense of entitlement. As for those people you know who’ve been rejected RD despite strong performance in rigorous programs, it doesn’t prove anything if you don’t know that they would’ve been accepted early. Again, our conclusions are the same, I’m only challenging the logic that leads you there.</p>
I agree to a qualified degree. Which is why chancing is a rather ludicrous armchair hobby or habit, but there is no dearth of people wanting to discuss their chances.
I figure a healthy dose of “anything is possible” is a valid approach because there are too many variables in the holistic assessment to actually predict with any accuracy. Still, there are ranges that someone better at math than I could calculate, such as “If my school is a rigorous school from which UM typically accepts 10% of the population and I have a 3.8 and 32 ACT, there is about a 8 in 10 chance all things being equal I would be accepted, depending on how early I apply. If 60% of the offers are made EA then my chances reduce over time from X to X because if applying RD I am still among a pool of 23,000 remaining applicants (deferred and RD) but available spots have reduced to 2400 from 6000…(NOTE THIS IS AN IMAGINARY SCENARIO, READERS, DO NOT RUN OUT AND SAY ELSEWHERE IT’S A GIVEN THAT 60% ARE OFFERED, I MADE THAT UP).” I think that was Blackpen’s point, and I have noticed that he/she gets picked on here and there (and is constantly called harsh) for saying so because it is not what people want to hear. And while I can’t prove it, my sense is that Blackpen is often more accurate in assessments because he or she is possibly intuitively calculating these algorithms.</p>
<p>At any rate, my intent is to share information with people so that they understand anything is possible, including rejection with a 4.0 or acceptance with a 3.0. There are usually reasons behind outlier results, and we know that some of those reasons include school reputation, personal character as described by reccommenders, regional or national accomplishments in specified areas and the inclination to make full use of the resources available to a student. Those aspects are chapter and verse from admissions, and are made clear on the reader admit assessment forms.</p>
<p>So there is qualified logic somewhere in them there hills – but you are welcome to say there isn’t – I don’t mind since I was responsible for making it clear if I meant it to be obvious. And I wholly agree that no one should take anything for granted, including a 4.0, for all the reasons and weights I listed above.</p>
<p>Early response is when you have everything in by Nov. 1 and receive a “decision” (which can include deferred) by Dec. 24th. RD is everything submitted by Feb. 1, with rolling admissions until mid-April (and beyond, in the case of waiting lists.) None of us knows the proportion of spots offered or filled EA, or what the EA yield rate is. Total number of spots is roughly 6,000; overall yield rate is apx. 43% (meaning that is the proportion of acceptances that will matriculate at UM). IF (and this is only an if) they make 6000 offers EA, they can expect 43% of them to accept (roughly) meaning 6000 applicants are removed from the pool of 29,000 applicants and that proportionately 2850 spots are no longer available. Hope that helps. Cheers, K</p>