<p>By the way, who makes the guided missles Hezbollah is firing? China? Russia? The US?</p>
<p>If one believes Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s rhetoric, and that of the rest of the radical Islamic world, he would like nothing more than to annhilate Israel. More than jobs, prosperity, a state for Palestine, the Arab countries (and Iran) would like to blow Israel and Jews into the sea. It’s their number one national goal.</p>
<p>I see no reason to doubt Mr. Ahmadinejad. I know he is trying to deflect attention from Iran’s internal problems, and international pressure regarding his own desire for nukes, but this is not all simple blasphemy, but something more sinister.</p>
<p>Without its threat of nuclear weapon arsenal, Israel would have been blown off the map 60 years ago. The only protection it has is it threat of nukes. If Iran had nukes, Israel would be gone in a heartbeat.</p>
<p>Askng what Israel should do at this point after the overreaction, is like trying to recork a champagne bottle</p>
<p>Well then CGM,
What would you have recommended that Olmert’s response to the Hezbollah missile attack on Haifa be?</p>
<p>Hold hands and sing kumbaya in front of an environmentally safe fire, do doubt.</p>
<p>Please, no jokes about global warming; Haifa will <em>also</em> be under 36 feet of water when the glaciers melt.</p>
<p>And when that happens a thousand years from now, I will be mourning.</p>
<p>See, it really makes me uncomfy to defend Israel in the company of those who poopoo global warming and think Bush is a hero.</p>
<p>It’s such a no-man’s land.</p>
<p>Uhh, likewise Allmusic. Manbearpig lives :)</p>
<p>allmusic, you might be more unique than you realize with your disparate views,…</p>
<p>If the arabs put down their arms their would be no more violence</p>
<p>If israel put down their arms their would be no more israel</p>
<p>Israel has done everything for peace. In 2000 they offered the palestinians everything short of uf right of return, even east jerusalem…the heart and soul of the the jewish state, the arabs said no and instead initiated a deadly terror campaign. Last summer sharon withdrew from Gaza and gave it to the arabs, they even dug out jews from the cemeteries so that their graves would not be desecrated by those scum, they left greenhouses and agricultural equipment. The arabs destroyed everything and instead stepped up their attacks from gaza because now they had autonomy. So what does a country like Israel do now? Anyone tell me. What should Israel do after Sderot is a bombed everyday from gaza. What is Israel to do when 2 soldiers are murdered and one kidnapped by terrorists who made their base in the gaza that sharon expelled jews from. What is israel to do when a teenager is kidnapped and shot in judea and samaria. What does Israel do when 8 soldiers are killed, 2 kidnapped from Lebanon. Does it sit their. Does it give more land away in the hopes that land is what the arabs really want. I want mimi or someone else to give a real solution a real way israel should have responded after the attacks from gaza, lebanon, or westbank</p>
<p>“Israel has done everything for peace.”</p>
<p>Except say that they will consider giving back the land taken in 1967 if their conditions are met.</p>
<p>From the The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas’ Charter)</p>
<p>"Article Eleven:</p>
<p>The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. Neither a single Arab country nor all Arab countries, neither any king or president, nor all the kings and presidents, neither any organization nor all of them, be they Palestinian or Arab, possess the right to do that. Palestine is an Islamic Waqf land consecrated for Moslem generations until Judgement Day."</p>
<p>Vossron, please explain why you think a return to the 1967 borders will make any difference, given that the above is the fundamental basis for Hamas’ very existance (given that it is in their charter).</p>
<p>Trust me, RoRo, I know that. Makes me an interesting dinner guest, since one never knows which side of the table I will choose.</p>
<p>I sympathize. I suppose it is an easier survival tactic to be either on one side or the other since if you are on the table, in the middle as it were, you are likely trussed and seasoned. I think that’s called eliminating the middleman?</p>
<p>Mini posts: “Few American Jews, but virtually all Israelis are aware that Palestinian governments have on three occasions offered complete recognition of the state of Israel once a Palestinian state is established. Without such a state, there doesn’t exist a state (a tautology) that could recognize Israel if it wanted to.”</p>
<p>Unfortunately, Arafat rejected the offer of a state, so the rest of that point is moot.</p>
<p>Voss posts: "Please note that I didn’t say withdraw. Announcing a willingness to talk about withdrawal is just the first step in a long dialog, with endless details to be worked out, including security guarantees "</p>
<p>THe first step should be the recognition of the sovereign state of Israel.</p>
<p>Allmusic posts: “I see no reason to doubt Mr. Ahmadinejad. I know he is trying to deflect attention from Iran’s internal problems, and international pressure regarding his own desire for nukes, but this is not all simple blasphemy, but something more sinister”</p>
<p>I see no reason to doubt him, either. If someone with the means and motive tells you that he wants to kill you, you should take him at his word and act accordingly.</p>
<p>Allmusic posts: Trust me, RoRo, I know that. Makes me an interesting dinner guest, since one never knows which side of the table I will choose."</p>
<p>I bet you are a great guest! I’m a little unpredictable, too. I’m a conservative republican who supports gay marriage, opposes illegal immigration, supported the war in Iraq but despises the post-war period, accepts global warning as a reality (although not as the cause of every problem in the world), voted for Bush but disagrees with him profoundly on many issues.</p>
<p>Might as well come out and say I am a bit unpredictable as well…Lets see, gay marriage ok, no gun regulation, pro war, anti creationism, anti hate speech codes, Manbearpig is dead, pro DDT, pro capitalism, pro Israel, etc.``</p>