<p>I am from India and I want to study Business Management in USA. If I have an selection letter from IIM … will it be of any help getting into an IVY School … IIM is not only India’s best Business School but one of the best in the world …</p>
<p>I’ve never heard of it, but if it is really the best then yes it would help</p>
<p>If it’s one of the best in the world, why would you want to travel half way around the world and pay an insane amount of money to study someplace else? </p>
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<p>I think you are little bit harsh on international students.</p>
<p>I am, and for good reason, but that doesn’t answer my question. If someone can go to a college that’s one of the best in the world in one’s home country, why not just do it? </p>
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<p>Annasdad you sound really prejudice right now. Why question his motivations? You could easily ask the same question to everyone who wants to go to a top college, when they could get a full ride at a lesser college.</p>
<p>Aniruddha - Are you applying for undergrad or MBA?</p>
<p>If you got into IIM, it is better to go through that program than most schools in US unless you can get into a top 10 program.</p>
<p>Getting into IIM does nt mean much for the schools here. You do need to go through all of the admissions paperwork first and can list it is an honor or achievement but that and a dollar will get you a cup of coffee. If you think about it, it is no different than going Wharton and saying I got into U Chicago, I should be good enough for you. It never works that way.</p>
<p>If you go through IIM and want to apply to a business school for a Ph.D. on the other hand, it will help you get in easily.</p>
<p>Annassdad</p>
<p>I will tell you why .
Because for us internationals , If you have a certificate from the US then you are considered the best in your home country, even if you graduated with a 2.0 gpa . That doesn’t matter , What matters is that you went and studied in the US , you are different than thoose who studied in home universities .
Career options , they will be huge , really huge . Everyone will want you to work for him . While if you studied in your home country you will probably end up unemployed for like 2 years or so .
This is the third world , enjoy it .
That’s why I , and my friend here , want to graduate from a US university . </p>
<p>And did I mention that everyone in here wishes to go and visit the US even if it’s for one day ?? So studying there would be thrilling.</p>
<p>You’ll never understand how we look at the US , we are suffering at our homes so we want to go to the US , the land of freedom and money as everyone thinks in here >> but not me</p>
<p>Actually, I do question the motivations of someone who wants to go to a college just for the prestige, when they could go to a very good, less prestigious college for a lot less. </p>
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<p>Depends on the IIM. If it is IIM Ahmedabad, they are comparable to MBAs from Harvard which means coming to US and getting an MBA from a school by spending close to 140k, that is not in top 10 is probably not meaningful.</p>
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<p>I’m going to say what I would say to any student…choose a school you WANT to go to, not just one that is an “ivy”. Research each of the schools online, see what they have to offer. When you come on here and ask which ivy is the best, it just looks like you’re looking for prestige, not a college that is a fit for you. You can email the colleges and ask if being admitted to that school helps…they will know better than anyone. Good luck!</p>
<p>Annasdad, clearly you understand little about certain international institutions. IIM Ahmedabad, like the top IITs, is an extremely prestigious institution, among the best. I know several alums of such, and they are all pioneers in their field.</p>
<p>What you don’t understand is that top notch Indian programs, education wise, are far behind their American counterparts. While Ahmedabad has a lot of prestige–both in India and select circles around the world–it does not provide the kind of education as does a top business school.</p>
<p>A very apt comparison would be a top student choosing between IIT Madras and MIT. IIT Madras not only has a lower acceptance rate but also an extremely good name around the world. What it does not have, however, is the learning environment provided by MIT.</p>
<p>You really should research before jumping to conclusions.</p>
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Probably true. I know people here, though, that would have (and have) an easier time getting into Ivies across the ocean than into Ahmedabad. And perhaps on a more important note, the top Indian institutions are much like the ones in Britain–focused. While that saves time and provides great depth into the subject, students are deprived of the liberal arts.</p>
<p>Did you completely miss what FreedomEagle said, annasdad? It’s not the same as an American student applying to an American college. There are so many more factors… </p>
<p>But OP, look into all of the schools you’re considering and try to decide which would be best for your studies and beyond.</p>
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<p>Absolutely not true at all. What is considered highly selective to parents and highschool kids, or amazing to corporate recruiters, may have little relevance to academics choosing the next generation of researchers. No one really cares that you were a top scoring test taker in highschool. </p>
<p>If you want a PhD in business in fact, dont choose an undergrad in business. The latter is an applied degree, training you fit a job, not a research degree in a primary discipline. Better to get undergrad in math, physics, psychology, etc. (depending on area of interest) from a top school (IIT for example) and/or work with well known business faculty in the field (which would not include IIM because the field of publishing is so north American centric right now). I say this from the vantage point of serving on such selection committees, at several top business schools, for past twenty years.</p>
<p>Very true, I don’t know of many renowned business professors that did their undergraduate as such. IIM isn’t meant to matriculate researchers, but business professionals. In fact, even for business professionals, IIT is an excellent path. Look at Vikram Seth?</p>
<p>starbright - I know a lot of people who went to IIM and got into Wharton for Ph.D.</p>
<p>IIM gives what is an equivalent of MBA or what they call a management diploma equal to a masters. So we are not talking about going from Bachelors to a Ph.D.</p>
<p>I think the point was that nothing is a given.</p>
<p>I wasn’t jumping to conclusions - I was reflecting back what the OP said, which was that the Indian school was among the best in the world. If that’s not the case, then I can understand why s/he wants to come to the US to go to school. If s/he is in a position to pay for it, hey, go for it. </p>
<p>But two further thoughts: 1, the attitude that it’s ok for anyone to go to any school, anywhere, with the attitude that the diploma is the goal rather than the education is flat-out wrong. 2, colleges with limited merit dollars should spend them on students who plan to stay here and contribute to this country rather than on those who plan to go back home and work for next to nothing and outsource American jobs. If you can pay the freight, come on, colleges can use your money. If you can’t, stay home. </p>
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You really don’t know what you’re talking about. India, every year, looses its top students in business, engineering, mathematics, and science to American postgraduate institutions. The Indian taxpayer, who subsidizes IIT/IIM and its ilk to be a highly affordable experience, looses these people to Harvard, Yale, and Princeton. </p>
<p>So I’ll tell you what’s happening, since you don’t see it. The Indian taxpayer invests in an extraordinary amount of human capital, the best. This capital is then shipped to America–because they have Harvard and its peers–never to return again. And when these people, who were educated by the Indian taxpayer, earn six and seven figures, it is the American population that is benefitting from their dollars.</p>
<p>So yes, you were jumping to conclusions. And unless you really want to show how blind you are to the world around you, you might want to stop making such harsh judgements without thinking.</p>
<p>No, I was responding to the poster who said (answering on behalf of the OP, apparently) that the reason that Indian students want a US diploma is so they can go back to India and impress everybody. If an international student wants to come here, pay full freight, and then stay here and contribute to the American economy and society, that I’m all for. </p>
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