Ivy League Medical Schools

<p>I have been searching about this, but do Ivy League Med Schools have Family Medicine. I want to be a family physician, but I don’t see any of them have Family Medicine/Primary Care. Does anyone know if they all have that specialty in med school. Thanks:)</p>

<p>Med students don’t do a specialty. Specialties are done AFTER med school, during residency… During med school, a student does all the rotations to get a taste of each one.</p>

<p>Are you using the term Ivy League Medical Schools to mean the specific 8 Ivies, or as a general shorthand for “really good med school”?</p>

<p>If the former, not all of the Ivies have med school.
If the latter, there are other med schools that are top as well, such as Johns Hopkins or WashU. </p>

<p>Med school is exactly the same for every future doctor – the future dermatologists, psychiatrists, and brain surgeons do exactly the same thing as the future family medicine docs. You learn a specialty in residency, which is after med school. </p>

<p>If your goal is to become an everyday family medicine doctor, there is little difference in going to an elite med school or not. You’ll make the same amount of money (Blue Cross Blue Shield doesn’t pay you extra if you went to Harvard Med) and your day to day life and activities will be the same. Medicine is a “flat” field; not a huge amount of prestige differentiation. In that regard it’s unlike law or business.</p>

<p>ITA. If you want to see patients in family medicine (or another primary-care field), it makes no sense to pay the price for Yale Medical School. If that’s your career goal, you should pay in-state tuition at your home-state medical school. Because, basically, the liver is the liver, and it works the same way whether you study it at Yale or the University of Oklahoma.</p>

<p>And more importantly, your everyday practice is your everyday practice - patients come in, you see them and treat them, next – and what that day looks like is the same whether you went to Yale or state flagship med. Exactly.</p>

<p>You’ll also see, when you look at rankings for med schools that there are two separate rankings: One is for research schools (where you see the usual suspects - Harvard, Stanford, Johns Hopkins plus a few you may not expect) and the other is for primary care (where you will see many that you probably wouldn’t expect to see like U of Colorado, and U of Iowa). Not that rankings mean much in this case - the difference between Stanford and your in-state school is virtually nada in terms of preparing you to practice family medicine. The real difference would be in preparing you for a career in academic medicine and research.</p>

<p>Strongly agree with Sikorsky that if family medicine is your goal, your in-state school at half the price is what you want. The “Ivy” tag doesn’t get you much prestige in the eyes of other doctors because they know well that it’s not closely correlated with excellence in medical education or in the academic caliber of the students.</p>

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<p>Agree that many of the med schools ranked highly for Primary Care are public SOMs. However, public SOMs rarely accept many non-MD/PhD students who aren’t instate for the SOM. So, apply to all of your instate SOMs for your best chances for schools strong in Primary Care.</p>

<p>The thing is that I live in Georgia and I want to go to a liberal arts college in Massachusetts. I looked at all the public med schools in MA, but they all still near the same price as a Ivy League, Duke, Emory, and NYU. Does anyone have any advice?</p>

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<p>UMass Worcester is the only public medical school in MA.</p>

<p>It all depends if I get into a liberal arts college in MA. If I don’t get into any, I’ll just go to Spelman or UGA and go Georgia Health and Science University, since the tuition is VERY cheap. If do get into a college in MA, I think I would choose UMASS since it is highly ranked in primary care and would probably get better financial aid. It all depends on how I feel in the future and what happens. I could change my mind maybe. I still need more advice. Thank You everyone for posting. This has been very helpful. :)</p>

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There is no FA for med school, only loans.</p>

<p>My dr. Son in Law recommends state med school in a city with a major trauma hospital. He thinks you get better experience.</p>

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<p>No, really. No matter where you go to college, you should go to public medical school in your home state. Especially if you want to do primary care. Primary physicians don’t make a ton of money; you don’t want to take on unnecessary educational debt for your M.D. </p>

<p>If you want to do family medicine, what you care about is how good your residency program is at family medicine, not how good your medical school is. Go to medical school as inexpensively as you can. Do well there, so that you’ll be a desirable candidate for residency programs. Then do your residency in a teaching hospital that excels in family medicine.</p>

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<p>OP, UMass Worcester does not accept ANY OOS students except for MD/PHD.</p>

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<p>There are a handful of exceptions to this where need based aid (if you qualify) or merit scholarships can make private schools even more affordable than your state school.</p>

<p>All your replies are very helpful. I could do my residency at Harvard which is great. Does any one know public med schools that have md/mph. Thanks :)</p>

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<p>But M.D./Ph.D. programs aren’t intended for people who want to be regular doctors. They’re intended for people who plan to have research careers in academic medicine. If what you want is to be a primary-care physician, an M.D./Ph.D. program is really not what you want.</p>

<p>What you want is to pay as little as you can for an M.D. (or D.O.) degree.</p>

<p>Wait a second…you said M.D./M.P.H. How did M.P.H. come into the discussion? But it doesn’t matter. You don’t want an M.P.H., either.</p>

<p>I said md/mph because I though most doctors have that or a md/phd or a md/mba</p>

<p>Most doctors have a college degree (a B.A. or a B.S.) and an M.D. That’s it.</p>

<p>Some doctors do not go to traditional medical schools (which are sometimes called allopathic medical schools). They go instead to colleges of osteopathic medicine, where they earn a degree called Doctor of Osteopathy (D.O.); they usually complete a B.A. or a B.S. first.</p>

<p>For all practical purposes, you can do just about anything with a D.O. that you can do with an M.D. You can be licensed to practice medicine in any state. You can train in any medical specialty that you can train in with an M.D. degree–assuming you can land a residency slot. </p>

<p>But that’s the only post-college degree that most doctors have: either an M.D. or a D.O.</p>

<p>(And please notice that a D.O. is not the same as an O.D.–Doctor of Optometry–which is a degree for optometrists, who are eye doctors.)</p>

<p>The thing is that I live in Georgia and I want to go to a liberal arts college in Massachusetts. I looked at all the public med schools in MA, but they all still near the same price as a Ivy League, Duke, Emory, and NYU. Does anyone have any advice?</p>

<p>I think you’re missing the point. The idea is to go to your OWN instate SOM. It’s almost impossible to get into a number of public med schools when you’re OOS.</p>

<p>It also seems that you think that you should go to the same undergrad school as med school. Most of the time, people do not go to the same med school as undergrad.</p>

<p>And, if you went to UMass as an undergrad, you’d get NO aid as an OOS student. And you’d only get loans for med school. </p>

<p>What are your stats? GPA? Test scores?</p>

<p>edited to add…you’re only a frosh in high school. Wait a couple of years.</p>

<p>In the meantime, study hard.</p>