January 2010 Writing Thread

<p>Were the X chrom., NY apples, and Saturn sentences the only ones with no error? I don’t recall seeing a sentence with photographers in it.</p>

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<p>I’m not sure about my essay score, but I’m hoping for 2400.</p>

<p>from past curves, what kind of score range should i expect from a -5 MC (this is a complete guess, i only know i got -1 so far, but theres no consolidated list for this section) and 11 essay? and how much should i expect from a -1 MC with an 11 essay?</p>

<p>OKAY. sooo on the last section, section 10, what have we decided on for the last two questions?!</p>

<p>number 13. C or D?</p>

<p>number 14. A or E?</p>

<p>i put C and A =/</p>

<p>i had C and E for the last 2, pretty sure that the C is wrong though.</p>

<p>do you guys remember what questions 13 and 14 were? or at least something to do with the questions?</p>

<p>For the “has so profoundly influenced” and “so profoundly influenced” question, GOOGLE the quotes and you’ll see that ALL results show the phrase “so profoundly influenced” WITH the word “has” before it!!!</p>

<p>in the latter case, “influenced” is being used as an adjective as in: “He was so profoundly influenced that…” IT IS NOT A VERB IN THIS CASE.</p>

<p>Therefore the answer is “so profoundly influenced”. I’m 100% sure. I got 800 on writing on my last SAT. I know my writing stuff (I just fail reading) XD</p>

<p>wrong, iceui2. I just did the google search, and the first few results had “has”, but the rest were evenly split. I think in the sentence given, “has so profoundly influenced” may have been a sequence of tenses error too. I’m not completely sure though</p>

<p>oh amiright, here’s what someone at the first page of this topic wrote:</p>

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<p>I think the answer was “so profoundly influenced…”</p>

<p>Example: He was so good at movies that he became a rockstar. </p>

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<p>But in that sentence, “was” is the verb. In the SAT example, the sentence just started with “He”. Therefore, you cannot say “He so good at movies”. “influenced” is being used as an adjective in this sense.</p>

<p>Here’s another reason: Even if that is correct, “He so influenced” suggests that it is a past tense action. But obviously, this sentence is trying to convey the idea that this person has influenced people from ancient times to today. Therefore, “influenced” would be in the wrong tense.</p>

<p>“Has influenced” suggests that this action started in the past and still continues today.</p>

<p>Final thought: If you still believe that “so influenced” is correct, please give reasons why “has so profoundly influenced” is incorrect. I gave plenty of reasons to why “so profoundly influenced” is wrong.</p>

<p>Sorry about the rant, I have nothing against you amiright. I thought the writing was a lot harder than usual also.</p>

<p>I don’t remember what I put, but if “so profoundly influenced” and “has so profoundly influenced” are both grammatically correct I would pick the former because it has a simpler tense than the latter does.</p>

<p>he so profoundly loved the rock star that he went to all of his concerts. </p>

<p>I completely agree, i think this question was pretty hard. But i included my example above, loved can be used here as a verb. In your example, in the place of “loved”, you put in the word “good”, an adjective. I don’t think that SAT question was testing your ability to differentiate verbs and adjectives, i still think it was a sequence of tense error. However, we don’t have the original sentence in its entirety in front of us, so no point arguing withtout that i guess</p>

<p>Does anyone recall a question that appeared relatively early in the finding errors section, about a boy who appeared on stage at the age of 8, but before had been dancing with his siblings? Was that a No Error?</p>

<p>Well the problem is, the sentence specifically stated than an ancient Greek is STILL influencing modern writers. Therefore, using “so profoundly influenced” would suggest a tense error, because this is in the past tense. Using “has” corrects for that error by saying that the “influence” is still continuing to this day. Just because something has a “simpler tense” doesn’t make it the correct answer. The SAT would not do that. There has to be a more rigorous reason.</p>

<p>Yea let’s just forget it… there better be a generous curve. :)</p>

<p>iceui2,</p>

<p>No where in the sentence was the word “still” used; however, it did say “LATER” artists.</p>

<p>It was definitely “so profoundly influenced.” Including “has” would have conflicted with the clause that had a simple past tense verb.</p>

<p>Well since most questions have been clearly addressed ; I will address the beaver one and the agency question.</p>

<p>BEAVER QUESTION</p>

<p>From the looks of it , people were stuck between these choices:</p>

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<li>The largest rodent, the beaver</li>
<li>The largest rodents, the beaver </li>
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<p>I distinctly remember that “the beaver” was singular in both choices, making this a simple and easy choice. A plural “rodents” cannot be describing a singular “rodent”; therefore, the answer is choice 1.</p>

<p>AGENCY QUESTION
I don’t think this has been properly addressed either.</p>

<p>The two choices most people had trouble deciding between were choice A and E.</p>

<p>Let us look at these two choices:
A. The agency reports that by [ doing something ], industrial pollution has been reduced.
E. The agency reports that by [doing something ], it has successful reduced industrial pollution.</p>

<p>FYI the brackets simply mean that I do not know the exact wording, but I do distinctly remember that “doing” was part of it.</p>

<p>Going off these two choices, many would be tempted to choose choice A, but look closely at choice A. It is implying that industrial pollution is “doing something” and therefore it was reduced. Obviously, this is a logical fallacy. Choice E on the other hand implies the agency itself did something; this is the correct answer. </p>

<p>-I hope this cleared up some of the controversy over these questions.</p>

<p>^ I agree.</p>

<p>Is there a consolidated list for the non-experimental writing questions?</p>

<p>cookiemonster,</p>

<p>No, but I’m thinkin someone should make one! haha.</p>

<p>wait… didnt the agency question have something about
REPORTED</p>

<p>e.g
the agency reported that by (doing sumthing), pollution was reduces
so it never explicitly states that the agency reduced the pollution
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im confused</p>