^ why go for complicated when you can have simple though?
It’d be simple to skip the watch a couple times.
It’d be so much more complicated to find a way to introduce someone into a federal (high security) prison without anyone noticing, kill him, erase the videotapes, get out without anyone noticing.
According to a person who has spend time in this prison, committing suicide in those cells is just not possible
https://nypost.com/2019/08/10/former-mcc-inmate-theres-no-way-jeffrey-epstein-killed-himself/
What strikes me is that everyone, left and right, thinks that the circumstances of this so-called suicide are suspicious. Maybe we’ve all watched too many shows like “House of Cards”.
I’m conservative and certainly don’t believe only the other guys are pervs. Power breeds unsavory characters. I don’t think anyone who ever came across him was some kind of deviant, but those in his close circle had to have been involved.
Yes I use being suicided to mean he was killed and made to look like suicide. But it wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if he had an opportunity and took it. There’s no way he’d want to face life in prison.
Next shoe to drop is R. Kelly. Same MO. He is on recorded stating he doesn’t like jail… Lol…
These people think their untouchable.
The whole point of the Parent Cafe is for parents to have a place to come and discuss anything and everything unless it is specifically forbidden by TOS.
MSNBC has had a few bits on her today. Rich people really do live a different life.
Some of this reminds me of the NXVIM thing and how all these rich people went along without questioning the leader.
@bookreader He was not on suicide watch, so many of those restrictions weren’t in place.
How is the name “Ghislaine” pronounced? (I get most of my news by reading and listening to NPR in the morning, and haven’t heard her name mentioned yet.)
@GnocchiB I’ve heard it pronounced gah-lane. Silent s, first syllable short A, second syllable long A. And also gee-lane, with a hard g. But who knows if the tv personalities were pronouncing it correctly or not. 2 different ways both national networks.
I’m not normally one for conspiracy theories, but all the guys at the gym said his days were numbered after the first time he supposedly tried to commit suicide. There are too many people who probably have an interest in making sure he couldn’t talk. On both sides of the aisle.
If these are some possibilities, why is no one thinking of the Royals? The Queen and Prince Phillip are still pretty sharp and well-connected. Or perhaps Fergie knows someone.
Or the current president. [I suppose if Clintons can be raised several times without violation of TOS, so can current pres?] According to many reports, Epstein was a frequent guest at Mar-a-Lago, where he recruited girls. Epstein’s brother reported that the current president has flown on Jeffrey Epstein’s plane many times. Too close for comfort.
Although anything is possible, I think the prison allowed Epstein ample opposition commit suicide, left it as a wide open, welcome out.
He was not in suicide watch, though it’s clear he should have been, and he did not even have normal required checks. No cameras there either.
Damage has been done to the entire case, because his criminal investigation is now closed since he’s dead. It’s not going to be as easy to get all of the materials and evidence that was part of that case and had to be turned over to the court. Each piece is going to undergo a difficult court battle in order to use against any of those involved in these activities. Some of the evidence is simply not going to be accessible anymore. Not to mention getting any info from Epstein and having leverage against those also involved
Not for many years, since the early 2000s.
I’ve only seen confirmation of one, in the 1990’s, for West Palm to NY. That doesn’t seem strange to me, two rich guys flying on a private plane. Maybe Trump’s jet was in the shop and a friend was just helping him out with a ride to work?
I think they will set up a fund from his estate like they did with Madoff. Those who have a claim will submit that claim and claims will be paid until the fund runs dry. The government(fed, states) will start forfeiture cases against the properties, boats, cars, ranch as property used in criminal enterprises. I don’t think anyone will object too much.
I wonder how much he has in Swiss bank accounts or off shore accounts and how long it will take to gather all that?
This is a very revealing article. Probably behind the Times paywall for those of you who aren’t subscribers and have exceeded the limit of free articles, but I am sure it will inspire commentary from other free news websites.
The Day Jeffrey Epstein Told Me He Had Dirt on Powerful People https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-interview.html
I didn’t find much that was revealing. The few names mentioned have already been bandied about and connected to Epstein.
What dirt did he have on Wexner who gave him so much?
I heard someone being interviewed yesterday who knows Ghislaine Maxwell and she was pronouncing it like “Gee-len”, with a hard G. It sounded sort of French.