Job Search Opinions - WWYD

<p>For those who have done a job search recently, what (if anything) would you do – I did 4 rounds with a company I really like for a position I really want. The rounds were almost daily; I was sending thank you emails between rounds and was getting back emails like “we are all really impressed and want to keep this process moving, can you come back tomorrow to meet with x.” Now that I’m done meeting with people, it’s been radio silence. I’m positive they are meeting others, as this is a huge company that’s likely not going to hire the first candidate that they see. However, this is a position I’m really interested in and am a good fit for it. Do I follow up? If so, when and what do I say? I clicked with everyone but there really is only 1 decision maker – would I reach out to him? </p>

<p>Part of me doesn’t want to as it’ll be another in the long line of rejections in this tough economy, but part of me is thinking “if I’m so awesome, how many people do you really need to meet?” Sadly, I don’t have an internal contact who can poke around for me. </p>

<p>Obviously my reaching out won’t change anything, if they have scheduled rounds with 5 other people, it’s not like they won’t do them because I called, but is there any benefit in reaching out? (All I know about the process is that it should take a few weeks, not a few months.)</p>

<p>I would just keep looking for other jobs so that I wouldn’t be preoccupied with something that I want but can’t do anything about. If they come back with the offer while you’re busy looking at other positions, then it’s a pleasant surprise.</p>

<p>How long was it since the last interview? A week? More? I would definitely call after a week to ten days. It shows you’re interested in the position. Make it brief and upbeat. Ask if there is any other information they need from you to make their decision; reiterate your interest in the position and the company. You can say (per BCEagle’s good suggestion) “I have some other interviews scheduled this week but your company is my first choice” and see what they say. It may just take longer than you think. </p>

<p>It sounds like they really liked you. I hope it works out!</p>

<p>I hate hate hate the process, but except for the good suggestions already provided, there’s really nothing else to do but wait. Just make sure you stay in touch, continue to express your interest, and keep them informed of your search with other companies.</p>

<p>Just wait…and keep looking. DH once had four interviews for a job he really wanted…last interview with the company CEO. FIVE MONTHS later they offered him the job. Five months! He heard not a peep from them and figured they had moved on.</p>

<p>Thanks all. I guess their initial need for speed threw me off. I have done this long enough to know some places are painfully slow, esp these days given the number of talented folks out there, and that nothing is certain – so of course, I will keep my process going as usual. The thing is timing came up initially and I had to tell them that I was in a process elsewhere that was going fast – that made them move me along really quick, which I appreciated, and saw as a signal. Now this sudden lack of word makes me think they must be thinking “ok - we had her meet x number of people, now what about this next guy whose resume we got, he seems awesome.” It’s been exactly one week, so I think I will wait at least a few more days before reaching out. All wisdom and words of encouragement are appreciated.</p>

<p>Where I work, the speed of interviews might be very fast, but the hiring approval process is super slow. I would not keep bugging them. You already expressed to them that you are interested in a position. The ball is in their court and depending on how internal process works, it might take a long time for them to get back to you.</p>

<p>Keep looking at other places, but bear in mind that many companies have fiscal years that end/start at the end of this month. So hiring might not take place for a few weeks, at best.</p>

<p>I am in the middle of an interview/hiring process where I work, but on the other side. I agree with the later posters, once you’ve touched base with them, expressed your appreciation for the interview and your continuing interest, I wouldn’t bother them with more contacts.</p>

<p>We have been interviewing for a couple weeks now, but I think we met the person we all agree was perfect and she was the very first interview! Imagine that. But there are other people who were contacted for interviews and those are still being held, plus a few people involved in the hiring process had people that jumped out to them from the applicant pool – so we are working our way through those interviews with an open mind. I would love to get back to that first applicant and just say, Please come work for us!.. but of course I can’t. It’s not just up to me, and even though everyone who met her thinks she’s great, we still have a process to go through. (She did send a nice card thanking us for the interview. At first I was almost afraid to read it because I was afraid she was going to say, ‘thanks, but I have been offered another job’. :eek:)</p>

<p>^^^^If you dither much longer, she might!!</p>

<p>^^Yes and that process can take 2-6 months…seriously. The fastest I’ve ever been hired is 4 weeks. Anyway, OK, I would wait a week to no more than 10 days and follow up with a phone call…not an e-mail. Tell them flat out you want the job, if you do, and then let fate take over.</p>

<p>Our process is pretty slow too - I think that it’s a big company thing. You need approvals at multiple levels and there are periods during the quarterly business cycle where hiring just doesn’t happen.</p>

<p>My daughter had several interviews, sometimes second or even third interviews, and never heard ANYTHING from them afterwards. Even when they promised they would let her know either way. The company that finally hired her (a very big company, BTW) acted so fast that at first she didn’t think it was real. She starts in two weeks. She (and I) were disappointed that these smaller companies didn’t bother to get back to her. However, it all worked out in the end. Just keep applying and applying and applying. Don’t give up, and be open-minded and flexible. Persistence is the key.</p>

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<p>Son ran into the same thing. Multiple interviews, lots of interest and then a black hole. He has been working for a year and a half in a job that he loves and I think that the job hunting travails are mostly forgotten. The place that hired him moved relatively quickly and used a one-month contract as a trial period. The vast majority of workers there had Phds and he only had his Bachelors + some grad school.</p>

<p>'rentof2 and others responsible for hiring esp. at big companies – if that woman that you think is perfect called you and said “I have another offer, can I realistically ask what your timing is and what my chances are” – what would you say? Is there anything you could do to move the process along or indicate to her that her chances were good, or would you just say “sorry, there are no guarantees, we’ll see how it goes?” Any thoughts on this by the close of business today would be great. My last round with this company was pretty recent but not like it was yesterday (I’m in the 7-10 day span everyone keeps mentioning); I feel like I need a bit of clarity in the face of timing pressure from another source. It would be so much easier if that source was offering something I actually wanted because then I would just take that and be done with it, but it’s not such an easy decision.</p>

<p>I guess I would just be honest about it, aj725. If you have another offer and you don’t want to pass on it just based on some hope the more-desired job will be offered to you, then I’d call your contact for the more-desired job and tell them that. See if they can give you a clearer sense of the likelihood of it. On the other hand, if what you really want is just some resolution to the tension of waiting, then I wouldn’t make that call. </p>

<p>As others have said and you no doubt already know, the best thing is to put out your best effort in any interview and then let go and move on to looking for the next opportunity. You don’t have any control over the desired-job’s hiring process, so trying to guess about it will drive you crazy. You might be better off just assuming you didn’t get it, and then if you do you can decide whether to take it or not. <em>The art of letting go when there’s nothing else to be done.</em> Which, I think, is the essence of your original question, “is there anything more I can do?” and the answer is probably no at this point… but you’re the person who’s had the interviews and met the people so you’re the best judge of whether more follow-up contact might be a good thing in this instance. I doubt it can hurt if you’re polite, but my sense from what you’ve said is that you’ve already covered that base with these folks and maybe for your own sanity it would be better to let it go now.</p>

<p>Sorry if this hijacks the thread, but…</p>

<p>I recently had five 1-hour interviews on the same day at a company I’d love to work for. After 2 weeks had passed, the recruiter sent me an email to say the first round of interviews will conclude on X date then she will, “follow up with you and let you know where we are and any next steps moving forward.”</p>

<p>What should I make of this? Would it be too presumptuous to take it as a good sign? X date is next week. :confused:</p>

<p>I agree with you. Ultimately, I think I will just follow-up once and let it go or not follow-up and wait and see. As everyone has said, I am continuing the process full force – applying, networking etc.</p>

<p>After a whole string of rejections at places that I thought were just ok/mediocre, I guess this job has shown me that there is stuff out there that I could really want – whether it’s this or other opportunities like this, even though they don’t come up every day. So now it’s a tough decision of settling for something that’s “okay” or taking a chance that I could get something I really want; it’s so easy for me when I have to tell someone to “believe in themselves” or “take some chances” – but so much harder when you have to do it for yourself. Everyone looks at my education etc. and says “you’ll get exactly the job you want” – when you get rejected 3000 times, it’s demoralizing and you wonder what people are talking about and whether you should just settle. And then something like this comes along and re-energizes the process and makes you not want to settle for “just anything.”</p>

<p>Doug - I always take this as a clear sign that they are interviewing others in the 3 weeks after they met you, then once that’s done they’ll sit down and decide who they want for second rounds and will let you know. I don’t think it’s good or bad – certainly not bad like an instant rejection. Just hold on for a bit - good luck!</p>

<p>It’s such a difficult process! Actually in my case, the person we’re looking to replace is me. :wink: I decided leave my job because it wasn’t feeling like a great fit anymore for a variety of reasons. It’s a funny thing to leave because it isn’t the perfect place for me, knowing there is probably no such thing… but in the same spirit as you in your job search, I’m trying to get closer to what would make me most happy and still be practical.</p>

<p>I will still work for my employer when I leave my current job, but in a very part time niche area doing a narrow part of my current job but the part I most enjoy. I think the saying is VERY true that ‘it’s easier to get a job when you have a job’, so when I do start looking for another position it won’t be from a state of being wholly unemployed… but it’s that same thing you’re hoping for of trying to set things up in an optimal way – good work, nice people, interesting duties, good schedule and good life/work balance. Not easy! Good luck to you.</p>