<p>Can we get Balmer to do the same? I smell a nice boost in the stock if the boob moves on and allows somebody with a clue to take over.</p>
<p>Steve Ballmer … Ugh. About the best I can say is that he’s done for Microsoft what Jeff Immelt did for General Electric!</p>
<p>I think Jobs might be done for good this time. I hope he’ll be OK, but I’m not optimistic.</p>
<p>I had read that it’s not uncommon for those with liver transplants to suffer with health issues that are not life threatening. So maybe he’s going through a rough patch but will be back.</p>
<p>Maybe his docs are demanding he take care of himself and not his company for awhile.</p>
<p>He has pancreatic cancer that was treated and then metastacized to his liver which was treated with a liver transplant. I would say that his long-term prognosis is not good.</p>
<p>^^I agree. I’m merely speculating here; I have no knowledge of his case, but in general it would be unusual if metastatic pancreatic cancer didn’t eventually start popping up in other places in the body as well. To hope that he had mets only to the liver and they managed to clean then all out with a transplant would be a longshot to say the least.</p>
<p>Ethics question: was it right to give someone who had little chance of living long that liver?</p>
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<p>Yeah I think we all know this. I was just trying to look at it through a more optimistic lens.</p>
<p>Is it right to give the liver to someone who benefits society greatly than to some drunk who is a burden on society?</p>
<p>setting a bookmark.</p>
<p>The announcement right before earnings (in one hour) isn’t a good sign.</p>
<p>Apple is only down about 3% right now. It was down 6.5% earlier today.</p>
<p>Of course it’s up over 1000% in the last five years. BTW, I do own Apple shares and didn’t take any action on the news. This is OpExp - how far could it go this week?</p>
<p>I would like to see a study of occupations vs. pancreatic cancer incidence. I know a few other people in the computer industry that have had pancreatic cancer. I do not know if people in the computer field have a higher incidence, but I would like to know.</p>
<p>You might want to check into Jobs’ bio - he’s had a wild and crazy life and there might be other risk factors at play.</p>
<p>Anymore than other people who were adults in the 70’s?? I know he was adopted and his birth parents were interesting while his adoptive ones were pretty conventional. He has a birth sister who is a pretty well known author and his birth mother was featured in her book “Anywhere But Here”.</p>
<p>Did most adults take LSD back in the 70s?</p>
<p>Ahhhh a liver transplant for metastatic pancreatic cancer. I truly have no idea how that got past an ethics committee. I am typing from a Macbook, own an iphone, and appreciate Apple. But I have to say that his insurance did not cover that surgery and it was only made possible by him paying out of pocket. Period. He bought a few more years. Hey, his life was likely worth it. It’s only money and if you are not around to spend it… But his getting the liver was curious. If you cannot rid the liver of cancer via chemo, you cannot rid the body of cancer by just removing the liver and replacing it. My guess is that the ethics committee said hey, if he wants to pay for this himself, and understands the risks, and the fact this is a temporary fix, then who are we to stand in his way or play GOD. But you have to have A LOT OF MONEY to get a liver under these circumstances. </p>
<p>Me, if I had pancreatic cancer with liver mets, I would not be getting a new liver. 'Cause my insurance would not be covering and I have not got that kind of money. But I am not Steve Jobs. This MD drives an 8 year old VW bug.</p>
<p>I suppose if one is paying out of pocket, and someone close to Jobs agreed to be a living donor, I don’t see the ethical issues. </p>
<p>I was just trying to read about this. Apparently a transplant is contraindicated for those with “uncontrolled metastatic cancer outside the liver”. Whatever that means! Does that suggest it is okay if your metastatic cancer is controlled? </p>
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<p>I know someone who did exactly this. He waited mere weeks for his liver. He lived for about 18 months after the transplant. I was surprised he got one so fast and assumed it was because he had a lot of money.</p>
<p>Steve Job’s donor was someone young who died in a car accident. I don’t have a huge problem with him getting a liver, he was young and had young children.</p>