<p>I can see about the family (aka kids). But from my perspective he just seemed to have a whatever attitude about the separation etc.</p>
<p>Thanks for the update. I missed the show tonight. I’ve set the dvr for a later recording.</p>
<p>Funny, I did not see it that way. He seemed very upset to me. Kate seemed more surprised, but both seemed stressed out and very upset to me. I think Kate is taking it harder because Jon decided to actually take some action. This is out of character for him. He usually sits back and coasts while she makes decisions.</p>
<p>aol describes the show:
In separate interviews, the two sounded off on why they were splitting and how it has affected them in the run-up. “I’m tired of smiling in the outside and crying on the inside. I’ve been doing that for a long time,” Kate said of their life and impending split. “I had a half a day where I let myself fall apart and hyperventilate and sob harder than I’ve ever sobbed in my life. By the time I woke up the next morning, I decided I need relief.”</p>
<p>As for whether the show played a part in their split, Kate says she thinks it would have happened either way. “I believe it’s a chapter that would have played out had the world been watching or not,” she said. “We don’t have anything now. It’s just like two people who happen to live here,” Jon said. “It’s just not good for our kids, for us to be arguing in front of our kids. We can’t be cordial in front of each other, so we decided to separate,” he added. Jon was quick to blame his attitude and Kate’s personality for the split. “I was too passive, I let her rule the roost and went along with everything and now I stood up on my own two feet and I’m proud of myself,” he said. Kate chimed in with equal sentiment, saying that she’s “kind of lost. He won’t hold a discussion with me. I don’t know that he knows what he wants.”</p>
<p>Still, both said that they don’t “hate” each other, and that divorcing was the best decision for the kids. Kate also said she was worried about “the label” and “being a statistic” now that the two have officially split. “It’s going to give me a whole new mpathy for people who do it,” she said, referring to divorce. “It’s going to be different, but I think it also shows we’re here for our kids,” Jon said. Papers to initiate at divorce papers between Jon and Kate Gosselin have been filed at the Bucks County Courthouse in Doylestown, Pa., PEOPLE is reporting. While little other information is given, it does seem that the couple’s 10-year marriage is indeed over as many have speculated.
The Gosselins have gone from ordinary reality show couple to tabloid staples over the last few months thanks to claims of infidelity and endless rumors of a possible split.</p>
<p>my heart goes out to Kate.<br>
i don’t think she is to blame at all.
it will be interesting to see what path he takes.</p>
<p>My heart goes out to the kids. Period. </p>
<p>I can’t believe they are still going to do the show. Might it not be a good time for everyone to step back and concentrate on feelings, a new routine, etc.??? Perhaps the paparazzi would eventually step back as well if they step AWAY from the cameras…</p>
<p>And on another note: It is so sad that these kids have become walking billboards - crooked houses t-shirts tonight! :(</p>
<p>Both parents will have their own residences but use the family home for “nesting”, as it is called. Given the number of kids and the size and amenities of the property, this makes a lot of sense and offers the most stability for children who are going to be upset enough. Please, don’t fret about the distance to NYC, as the train makes it an easy trip of just about an hour, and a large city will provide anonimity which might help either or both of the parents right now. What really bothers me- and I hope she doen’t keep it up, but I also suspect she will-is that Kate keeps dwelling on “MY” kids and often brushes it off when one of the kids says that they “miss Daddy”. In the episode where Kate took Maddy to San Diego, she said that, when they arrived there, Maddy was saying that she " wished that Daddy was there and that she really missed him" and that by the time they left, it was all , “I love you Mommy, you’re the best Mommy in the world”. She really stresses these things and insists that anyone and everyone within earshot know that her kids think that SHE is the BEST parent. One can hope that she’ll “get over” herself, and realize that the kids are hurting without any of the benefits of comfort from the fame or cash which seem to help keep a smile on her face and an artificial tan everywhere else! Oh wait, the youngsters did get those nasty, baggy t-shirts from the firm that Kate begged the playhouses from!
Kate comes off like a greedy, grasping witch who’s battle cry is “what’s in it for me” and who would go into meltdown if the salon and spa suffered a power outage while Jon seems to have stopped brain growth at the age of 13, has his goofy grin plastered on while he wears his baseball cap backwards and buys (or begs for?) yet another more expensive toy.
I can’t imagine what it would be like to have 8 children before I was 30, but, they made that choice and should grow up and realize that those children need them. They hurried up to have fertility treatments and had twins- she begged and whined for “one more” while he maintained that he didn’t want any more children- more treaments and 6 more kids. Who is worse? The woman who nagged and nagged her spouse for kids he didn’t want or the man who was too weak to stand firm and say no?
It really doesn’t matter, abasket said it all and said it really well. I just had to get my two cents in; thanks for letting me do it.</p>
<p>Okay here’s my deal…Jon you are 32 and obviously just pierced both of your ears, cut me a break! Kate said she was attracted to you because of the bad boy feeling. All I thought was when you filed today for divorce you asked for your male members back and the piercings were to tick her off!</p>
<p>Kate you have a Kleenex box and wipe your chin! What was that about? No dabbing the eyes, only wiping the chin. Another classic, I cried for 1/2 the day. Holy crap, if Bullet and I went through this, I would say on camera, I go to the bathroom 10x a day just so I could cry without the kids noticing. The I need to be there for the kids is BS. Only a few minutes earlier you stated it was 7-8 months in the making, which begs the question…JON did not want to do season 5, you did, why didn’t you say no season 5 and work on the marriage? The tabloids would have still run the stories, but darn, could you imagine the ratings if they walked away for a yr, and came back saying we left for our marriage and we are good now. The ratings would be sky high!</p>
<p>Jon said it the best tonight, soldiers are dieing in Iraq, but people care more about what he ate for lunch!</p>
<p>His second best quote was I was passive and allowed Kate to rule, I found myself. He talked about getting a job. You could see in him that he quit his job to stay at home in hopes that would save the marriage. He did everything because she convinced him to do it.</p>
<p>Kate sat there and said it is going to kill me to be away from the kids. Really? Let’s be honest Jon is staying at the house while she is away for book tours or speaking engagements. PLEASE DON’T PLAY ME. Her butt was not going to be at home anyway, and the reality is Jon would be there. Who does she think she is fooling? Anybody who is following their life darn well knows she is not a stay at home Mom, the stay at home is JON!</p>
<p>I was listening to talk radio today (John Gibson) and the joke was that more people watched J &K than the Brian Williams exclusive with Obama</p>
<p>Since when is everyone so eager to trust the media?</p>
<p>I think everyone needs to remember that no matter what, we are not seeing what goes on in that house 24/7 and we do not know the whole story. </p>
<p>Heck, if you followed me around a majority of my days, you’d get some pretty questionable stuff on tape. Personally, I always wonder how much cutting/editing they do to improve their ratings.</p>
<p>I know some of that stuff can’t be faked…but I do think everyone should take a step back and remember to take what the media says with a grain of salt.</p>
<p>I think all of you are wonderful parents. Imagine what it would be like to try and raise 8 kids in the public eye.</p>
<p>Now again, yes, I know they chose it, but still…no one ever truly realizes what they’re getting into, do they?</p>
<p>I think both of them made a lot of mistakes, and I have just a little sympathy for Kate because she ALWAYS gets portrayed as the “bad guy” in the relationship. The fact is you can’t force a grown man to do anything unless he’s willing to let you. He always had the choice to stand up and say “No”, which it looks like is what he’s finally doing. Kudos, Jon, for standing up for yourself (finally).</p>
<p>I also think the show, everything everyone has donated to them, etc. has given those kids a lot of wonderful opportunities they would not have otherwise had with 7 siblings a piece. Let’s face it–no matter what happens next, those kids will have a roof over their head, clothes on their backs, and food on the table. Isn’t that the really important thing here?</p>
<p>It might also be good for them down the road, when they can watch the tapes and hear both of their parents say “none of this is their fault”, “I never hated Jon/Kate and never will”, etc.</p>
<p>I think, like Kate says, there are good and bad sides to every situation. If they can be better parents to their children divorced than they currently are as a married couple, then more power to them for realizing that. It’s an extremely difficult choice.</p>
<p>Should they have maybe tried some therapy first? Probably. Should they have done this season? Probably not.</p>
<p>But no matter what, as long as those kids are being cared for to the best of the parents’ ability in their given circumstance…I won’t complain. (much.)</p>
<p>There are things J&K probably could have done differently/better. But what parent can’t say the same? Hell, what PERSON can’t say the same about any given situation in their life?</p>
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<p>I’ve noticed that people are keeping the kids stationary and moving individual parents in and out of the house when that parent’s time with the children comes up. I suppose that can only last so long…who gets to choose the new sofa?</p>
<p>Earlier J&K shows were about the family doing average family things = dentist, haircuts, 4th of Joly parade, etc. Then came more trip with all sorts of perks - skiing in Park city (twice, Outerbanks, Hawaii, etc. Now the show has reached a different level - American Chopper, Emeril, Crooked Houses. Now comes the divorce and turmoil for the family. j&K want to keep their childrens lives as normal as possible. How normal is it for kids to get all these perks and be treated like television royalty. It seems like every show the kids get something new that the average family could never dream of having. IMO this will have more of an impact on the children as they get older than their parents divorcing. I think that Kate put on the show of her life last night portraying the victim. She did only use the tissue once - to wipe her chin. She was probably making sure her makeup wasn’t being messed up. She will be gone more than half the time on book signings and other events to make Queen Kate feel even more special. However, now with Jon further away - who will watch the kids? At some point she was gone 22 out of 25 days. Is she willing to give all this up to devote all her time to her children during this time? I don’t think so. Jon was much more mature when this show started than he is now. You can only beat a man down so many times before he revolts.</p>
<p>^ I agree with the downward spiral of the show as you stated Michone. Jody and Beth and neighbors replaced by Emeril, and American Chopper gang. </p>
<p>Am stunned by this announcement. </p>
<p>Thought a separation, and Kate canceling those book tours would give time for rebellious, Jon to get ‘this’ out of his system. </p>
<p>They have become “celebrities” because of the show. So sad, and it happened so fast, but I do believe they are going to wake up in a year, and say " what was I thinking".</p>
<p>Jon is not blameless in this situation, but a commentator on the Today show last week said Kate had been emasculating him for 10 years bit by bit. However, I felt the tiniest bit sorry listening to Kate talking about “doing this alone” last night until I remembered that she has driven everyone who has tried to help away - particularly all her family. She seems unwilling to accept others unless they do as she commands. She is paying a high price for the choices she has made to alienate so many.</p>
<p>Michone- I totally agree. I wonder how much of the constant freebies and the sense of entitlement that it must bring spills over into the kids’ school lives? The younger children still seem fairly sweet and unspoiled, the older girls seem like they might be a handful at school. Thankfully the tabloid press has focused on the parents (who did open themselves up to this kind of attention) and left the children alone for the most part.</p>
<p>Everytime I see Maddy and her actions, I want to say to the Gosselins, she is having issues. Then again it could be all editing to make her look like a brat.</p>
<p>Last night they showed Mothers Day footage, the tuplets had bibs on. Is she going to send them to kindergarten with bibs? The kids are 5 now. If they need bibs than there is another issue at hand. </p>
<p>I agree with other posters, this woman has alienated her family. Notice her brother says nothing negative about Jon, just her.</p>
<p>She is a clean freak. They have never been allowed to get messy, spill food, use crayons or paint. I am surprised Jon never had a bib on. </p>
<p>They all have issues, and the show has been a huge horrible magnifying glass. I have issues. But I am not on a reality show with my family. </p>
<p>Kate has pushed eveyone away. Wait till the kids are old enough to run. Jon in his immaturity let her run herd over him and everyone else. He then deal with it in an immature way. Now he wants to run as well.</p>
<p>They needed to have announced yesterday that they were suspending the show and working on themselves, on the family. But no, they are going to continue on there merry way, down the slippery slope they are already on. </p>
<p>Wait until the twins are 13. Wait until the 'tups are 15. I really have empathy for this family. They so need some professional help. And I don’t mean household help. I mean serious family counseling. </p>
<p>It is all about priorities, and they are screwed up for Kate and Jon. And the children will grow up with the wrong priorities as well. Sad.</p>
<p>It is sort of a magnified train wreck, isn’t it? I see elements of people close to me in the whole situation so it is sort of fascinating in a horrible sort of way. I also find it reassuring that other people take issue with some of the same comments that I was surprised by , like Kate’s “my kids deserve this (palatuial) house.” No, they deserve a safe and normal childhhod, like every other kid. But really, I have to stop watching because it is too sad.</p>
<p>“I am surprised that John never had a bib on” LOL. That was funny SunnyFlorida!!</p>
<p>Kate made it crystal clear at the final episode season 4 that she LOVES her “career” on the show and that it is EXACTLY perfect and right for her. My guess is that Jon, bargained to keep the show going to appease her so he could start to move on. Kind of , “ok, whatever Kate - keep the show going, but I’ll only be involved when I have to and I’m moving on” - oops, I mean “turning the page” - wasn’t that the correct phrase last night???</p>
<p>I have no pity for Kate, I know that is mean, but it is how I feel. She stated at the end of last season that he didn’t want to do this anymore. She had an option, work on the marriage or do the show. She chose the latter and now she must accept the price that she paid to be on tv. I do feel for the children, because they seem more attached to him then her and now he will be out of their life seval days a week.</p>
<p>Can you imagine the paparazzi outside their house today! The only thing they can hope for now is that Brangelina splits up or adopts another baby to get them off their doorstep!</p>