Joint program in Engineering and Liberal Arts

<p>Can anyone comment on this program? Do you feel it was a worthwhile experience? My D would be interested in some type of engineering combined with a pure science or math. </p>

<p>Just so you know, there isn’t any sort of formal structured program for the dual degree. You won’t get any special privileges, advising, etc. It essentially involves just completing each individual degree’s requirements. </p>

<p>In terms of usefulness, it depends on what you want to do after graduation. It is especially worthwhile if you want to attend certain types of graduate schools. </p>

<p>Thanks @nubswitstubs. From the website, it looked like it was a separate program. I guess it is kind of like double majoring with a few more required courses.</p>

<p>If your D wants to do it to become a more well-rounded person, that’s fine. But don’t think that it will help her get a job, because it probably won’t. If she has spare time, engineering employers would prefer to see more engineering classes than those in other areas.</p>

<p>Are engineering classes fairly easy to get into or are they capped?</p>

<p>I don’t know the answer to your question, but I did want to comment on the dual degree,</p>

<p>IME, many of my son’s cohorts who started out with a dual degree found the scheduling and ultimate workload having them abandon the second degree.
His friends in Engineering typically found that the team nature of project work made it particularly challenging to have a split schedule and focus. While it’s do-able, it may not be particularly enjoyable :slight_smile: This was especially true if the second degree was also specialized eg. A BM from the SMTD. It may be less challenging in LSA with fewer required courses, but the LSA degree has language requirements that will burn up class/schedule time.</p>

<p>While there’s no harm starting out that way, and while some LSA degrees may be a good fit, don’t be alarmed if after a year or two your D decides to drop one :slight_smile: However, if she’s in no hurry and you don’t mind paying for an extra year or two for completion, its a sound plan.</p>

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<p>They’re generally pretty easy to get into, with the exception of first semester freshman year, the actual engineering classes may be hard to get into. Most people don’t start the actual engineering classes until 2nd or 3rd semester though.</p>

<p>I won’t say she is guaranteed to not have any problems getting into classes, but she probably won’t, and if she does it’s likely to be a small but desired elective class, not a major class.</p>

<p>Apologies to Nubs if he meant to keep it secret, but he’s doing an Engineering and an LSA major himself, so he’s definitely the right person to ask about the logistics. </p>

<p>Note specifically, the Engineering website is WRONG on the requirements of it. Not only do they have to do the distribution requirements, they have to do all the other requirements of an LSA degree as well, including things like language. Nubs will confirm this. </p>

<p>I appreciate everyone’s answers. Although this is my third child, this is the first time we are looking at Michigan (we are OOS), so I don’t know much about it other than that it has a very strong reputation and is cold :)</p>

<p>I can’t speak specifically to engineering, but even double majoring can be difficult. LSA requirements don’t leave alot of wiggle room. If there is any interest in studying abroad, getting it done in 4 years would be tough if not impossible. (And my daughter came in with 29 credit hours from AP) Unless money is no object, I wouldn’t recommend the 5 year plan. Tuition goes up Junior year and it is very expensive. All that said, Michigan is a wonderful place. My daughter has absolutely loved her time there. I am amazed on a regular basis at the opportunities these kids are given; what they accomplish and the job opportunities. </p>

<p>Are you about the language requirement for COE students?. If that is the case then my 2nd semester junior Computer Engineering son has some catching up and his academic advisor has a little explaining to do </p>

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<p>There’s no language requirement for those who are only in engineering. Those who are in LSA or are dual degree with LSA do have a language requirement. There’s a section of the engineering website which details the requirements of doing a dual COE-LSA degree which omits this.</p>

<p>^which, depending on how much language study you’ve had, can be a pretty big omission. The COE and the music school are both exempt from the language requirements because the programs are already highly sequenced with a fair number of requisite courses. That’s why it is sometimes challenging to dual degree with LSA – at least in terms of completion time.</p>

<p>My daughter is hoping to avoid extensive language study in college, so perhaps straight engineering would be the better course.</p>