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<p>You don’t know until you try. It is a whole lot cheaper to put this guy through an alcohol treatment program than 18 months in prision. BTW, I agree that an abusive father can be worse than no father, but it sounds like the guy now understands what he did was wrong and wants to fix things. Why not let him try?</p>

<p>It is easy to understand what you did was wrong when you are caught and punished. To me this is a lot more than a little bit of bad behavior because he was drunk that can be put right by an alcohol program. Can you even begin to imagine what these two children went through trying first to hide their cat from their drunk father then for one of them to be forced to stab and kill the cat. That is the behavior of a psycopath and is behavior that deserves a consequence not a pat on the wrist. I truly don’t believe saying I’m sorry and undergoing alcohol counseling is anywhere near adequate in a situation like this. </p>

<p>Have you known any victims of abuse? I have known several. A couple of family members and 2 close friends. The abuser always says they are sorry afterwards. I had a friend whose husband would knock her out and she would be grateful - grateful - for him rousing her with a glass of water. I have a relative whose abusive husband would abuse her horribly and she would say ‘oh he’s only did it because he was drunk’. Not an excuse. Those words are very easy to say. </p>

<p>Supposing these were not his children and their cat. What if he went to the elderly neighbors house and forced her to stab her pet to death. Or forced you to kill a pet. Or forced my child to do something that will haunt him or her forever. Would that be something we should just say ‘oh he just needs an alcohol program’. Where do you draw a line in what his drinking gives him a pass for? For me he has crossed that line with his actions. The fact that he did this to his own children is not ok. And they are much better off with him in prison than in their lives.</p>

<p>Things that are not OK even if you’re drunk:</p>

<p>Driving
Shooting guns
Shooting arrows
Stabbing living things
Hitting women
Hitting children
Hitting men
Abusing animals
Assault
Robbery</p>

<p>Anything that one needs to use “I was drunk” as an excuse is wrong! You don’t get a pass for being drunk!</p>

<p>why do we think that everyone who gets pregnant should give birth?
[Nation</a> & World | Jury: Mother cooked infant | Seattle Times Newspaper](<a href=“http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2008147900_ndig30.html]Nation”>http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2008147900_ndig30.html)</p>

<p>The cat story is not simply an alcohol problem. Most alcoholics would never do such a thing, even when blackout drunk. That’s the act of an abusive psychopath who happens to be alcoholic.</p>

<p>Was post-partum depression involved? If so, should we ignore it?</p>

<p>To me putting a baby in a microwave is “crazy”. As such I would question her mental health.</p>

<p>I agree it was crazy- some evidence indicates she was drunk.
[FOXNews.com</a> - Witness: Ohio Mom on Trial Said Baby ‘Fit Right In’ Microwave - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News](<a href=“http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,327385,00.html]FOXNews.com”>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,327385,00.html)</p>

<p>“why do we think that everyone who gets pregnant should give birth?”</p>

<p>Ask McCain/Palin.</p>