<p>[Dad</a> gets 18 months for forcing girl to kill cat - CNN.com](<a href=“http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/29/cat.stabbing.ap/index.html]Dad”>http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/29/cat.stabbing.ap/index.html)</p>
<p>What a horrible story</p>
<p>18 months isn’t enough. Next time, he’ll have the kids kill a small child.</p>
<p>:eek: :mad: :(</p>
<p>Poor children. Poor kitty.</p>
<p>I agree 18 months is not enough. Can you imagine the affect on those kids for the rest of their lives. When i read the part about the boy trying to hide the cat I just wanted to cry. I hope this man is not allowed to ever be part of his kids lives again.</p>
<p>I have no words for this… His excuse was that he was drunk?!</p>
<p>I agree with swimcatsmom, the children should not be under his influence anymore. I wonder where mom fits into all this.</p>
<p>I imagine that that’s only one of the many cruel things he has done to his family. Being drunk is no excuse. Many people get drunk, but would not kill an animal or deliberately harm anyone.</p>
<p>Northstarmom, you are probably right. This is clearly the situation where the kids should only benefit from being removed from daily interactions with this horrible, sick being.</p>
<p>The sick, sadistic things some people do make me ill. I cannot even fathom being drunk enough to do something like this man did. His children need to be FAR from him. Their lives with him must have been living hell.</p>
<p>I hope someone cares enough to put those kids in counseling. They will need it. I can’t even imagine my kids being a part of something like that … and being forced to do it by their FATHER, no less. Lord have mercy on them.</p>
<p>18 months is too long. Cats are property just like the cows people eat every day at McDonalds. It sounds like he has learned his lesson. The best approach would be to try to fix his drinking problem and the other problems would not arise. Forcing the taxpayers to give him room and board for 18 months is ridiculous.</p>
<p>Do you think children are property just like cows? The point is he forced his young child to stab her pet to death. That is a lot more than a drinking problem. 18 months is ridiculous. Not enough for putting 2 children through such a trauma.</p>
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<p>I actually agree. I mean I know what the guy did is twisted, but what good will jail do? Get him help for his drinking problem and get the whole family some therapy because there’s probably other stuff going on.</p>
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<p>Did I say children are property like cows? Don’t think so.</p>
<p>The controlling factor in this guy’s behavior is alcohol. Without alcohol this guy does not behave poorly. At least we don’t have any evidence to show he would behave poorly without alcohol. </p>
<p>If the guy is still an alcoholic after 18 month in prision, the 18 months will have been meaningless.</p>
<p>Newjack, this could be the first time you and I agree on something. :)</p>
<p>Ya know, razorsharp, you are not being too sharp for trying to be sarcastic here. Swimcatsmom is right, it is human beings who got hurt in this situation.</p>
<p>As a teenager, I watched a drunk man throwing newborn puppies off a bridge while a bunch of little kids screamed and tried to stop him. I slid down the clay slope on my butt, ran downstream, jumped into the cold water and caught as many as I could. They were still alive, and some survived (we found a surrogate mom for them). I take animal abuse personally.</p>
<p>However, this was not just a case of animal abuse. This was a case of child abuse. Should we let child abusers sober up and avoid jail by having a few sessions with a therapist?</p>
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<p>Do you eat cows and chickens? Fess up.</p>
<p>Unfortunately I have known several people that have been involved with abusers. The justification that they only do it when they are drunk is not, never has been, and never will be an excuse to me for people who abuse women, children, men or animals. It is so easy to use alcohol as an excuse. It should not be allowed as an excuse in a court of law or to any persons. I know lots of people who drink and do not abuse their spouses or their children or their pets.</p>
<p>razorsharp, I grew up on a farm. I trust that PCC does not sell meat from cows stabbed to death by abused little kids.</p>
<p>We are not discussing vegetarianism here. We are discussing child abuse. Should abusers go free? Should Dylan’s killer be freed instead of being sent to an electric chair?</p>
<p>I never said what the guy did was right or justifiable or didn’t cause harm to the child. Having a sober dad is more important than not seeing your dad for 18 months.</p>
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No your post specifically said animal abuse and I responded to that post. If you are eating cows and chickens you are killing them against their will and abusing them. Dead cats are the same as dead cows and chickens.</p>
<p>Sometimes it is better to have no dad if he chose alcohol over his kids. Do you really think that alcoholism treatment programs work for people who do not want to sober up?</p>