killer flu

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<p>literally apparently</p>

<p>A 7 year old boy has also died from * bacterial* myocarditis, presumably unrelated.
What concerns me, is for instance one father quoted in the article said that his kids had been home ill from school for a week with the flu, but also that they * had* flu shots.
<a href=“http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/304180_boydies17ww.html[/url]”>http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/304180_boydies17ww.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>also from same source</p>

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<p>and to continue ( Im having trouble posting it all in one)</p>

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[quote]
PRESS RELEASE
Anna Nicole Smith Possibly Died of Flu “Cytokine Storm”</p>

<p>FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE</p>

<p>Contact:
David W. Moskowitz MD
CEO, GenoMed
Ticker symbol: GMED.PK (on the OTC Pink Sheets)
tel. 314.983.9933
<a href="mailto:dwmoskowitz@genomed.com">dwmoskowitz@genomed.com</a></p>

<p>ST. LOUIS—February 9, 2007—GenoMed</p>

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<p>i give up- I’ll just post the link</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.prweb.com/releases/genomed/statement/prweb504146.htm[/url]”>http://www.prweb.com/releases/genomed/statement/prweb504146.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>My 11 year old niece’s classmate died of the flu last week. She was in class Friday and died Monday, which is a scary progression. She could not have been terribly ill Friday, because the school doesn’t tolerate ill children in school. Still waiting for details as to what sort of flu she had, whether or not she was vaccinated and if she had some other underlying condition that complicated the case.</p>

<p>Very sad situation.</p>

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<p>back when I was a pharmaceutical representative- I recall, the flu vaccine is made about a year ahead of time. At that time the companies have to guess which strain may be the most predominant, and produce a vaccine for that particular strain.</p>

<p>What happens often, is the strain that circulates (around the world) may not be the predicted strain, therefore, the flu vaccine may not be effective. </p>

<p>Perhaps, wise CC nurses or doctors may correct me if I am wrong, but that was my understanding many, many years ago.</p>

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<p>Hm. I’m not a medical professional, but I’m very skeptical about the claims put forth by Dr. Moskowitz. This is a press release, of course, and not a journal article, but speculating about the cause of Anna Nicole Smith’s death, then adding this about the meds in the trial:

doesn’t do much to instill confidence in this layperson’s mind.</p>

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<p>The flu has been very strong this year with lung complications on this side of the world. No deaths just a lot of sick people who are down for the count very quickly. But I have seen worse years as far as having to shut down the school.</p>

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<p>My kid was in the emergency room TWICE last week with lung complications… Twice because the first time, given that she had been vaccinated, they didn’t test her for the flu.</p>

<p>This is the story that is missing from every news report I have seen this year. From my personal count, the vast majority of folks coming down with the flu this year had been vaccinated, and for the specific strain for which they had been vaccinated. Having worked in public health for more than a decade (with responsibility for school vaccination schedules), I suspect CDC does not want to issue that press release.</p>

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<p>mini: Sorry to hear. Hope she takes care!</p>

<p>My husband, who never is sick, came down with suspected flu 10 days ago. He was so sick! I had never seen something like it! Fever for a couple days, then a hacking cough with weak lungs. I did not get this one and have had the flu shot this year.Hus. was never sick or bringing anything home until he stopped drving and started taking the train into work .</p>

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<p>mini- given that she had been vaccinated, they didn’t test her for the flu.</p>

<p>unbelievable! unprofessional, and they should be contacted to prevent further blunders.</p>

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<p>My D has had a high fever all weekend. No other symptoms, except some feeling of head-congestion. Tylenol brings the fever down, and she doesn’t really feel that bad. I figured a 24 hour bug of some sort. So I was surprised she woke up this morning with a 103.something fever. Trying to call the doc but keep getting a busy signal. Monday morning…</p>

<p>But you’ve all scared me into action.</p>

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<p>Southjerseychessmom - yes - you are correct - influenza vacine is still formulated pretty much the same way these days - and are not active flu strains. It still remains somewhat of a crap shoot every year.</p>

<p>One thing to keep in mind tho is that not ALL respiratory illnesses this time of year are flu related - not caused by flu - some not even close - even tho when someone gets pretty darn sick - that is what they blame it on. Until/unless a person is properly diagnosed - officially - it is pretty much a respiratory infection - can be from many many causes. ‘‘Flu-like’’ symptoms can even be cause by a reaction to many meds as well. ‘‘Flu-like’’ symptoms do not say that it is absolutely the flu.</p>

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<p>Mine had been vaccinated three months earlier, and for the exact same strain. It is possible, of course, that it would have been worse had she not be vaccinated (I would not want to find out.)</p>

<p>Crap shoot wasn’t an issue. At least where we live, it is vaccine failure, and that is far more scary.</p>

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<p>Back from docs - d has a sinus and ear infection. No idea if original bug was influenza or not. Aside from high fever (103 at doctors) which wipes her out, she doesn’t seem to feel that terrible, so maybe it wasn’t flu at all. Glad it’s something treatable.</p>

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<p>MINI the crap shoot piece is not vaccine failure - the vaccine used this year is a composit of possibilities - the most likely - but no guarentee - so a crap shoot it is.</p>

<p>Curious to know how you can say it was the ‘‘exact same strain’’? since they do/can mutate thru the same year.</p>

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<p>Always possible. But they did check the strain against the vaccine composite.</p>