<p>jdjaguar,
The bill that ultimately repealed the Glass-Steagall Act was introduced in the Senate by Phil Gramm (Republican of Texas) and in the House of Representatives by Jim Leach (R-Iowa) in 1999. The bills were passed by Republican majorities on party lines by a 54-44 vote in the Senate and by a 343-86 vote in the House of Representatives. (according to Wikipedia)</p>
<p>I don’t trust anything modern day Republicans do or say. This country hasn’t had an honest Republican politician since Eisenhower, and the way the GOP is going, there won’t be another one.</p>
<p>Hey, how about a CAC – Conservative Arts College? No need to deal with the tiresome Political Correctness of most LACs and elite schools, for that matter. From what I gather from the early part of this Socialist-Troglodyte donnybrook (I find these typically don’t do much for me so I skip them), the OP probably would be happy if his child went to a school at which there was not much room for questioning of certain traditional beliefs. I am certain that there is clearly a market for this kind of school. How different would these be from the Christian colleges, where certain truths are considered divine and therefore not subject to rational thought or questioning? Is OP looking for a non-Christian CAC? If not, why wouldn’t a traditional Christian college do?</p>
<p>I never stated my son’s social or religious views…but I find it amusing how so many took the leap from hearing my son didn’t like liberal views pushed on him to that he should be looking at Christian colleges. Not quite as bad as equating conservatives to racist and sexists though.</p>
<p>I didn’t take that leap. I asked if those schools would solve the problem that I think you posed.</p>
<p>I don’t know if any posters took that leap. Perhaps it was you misinterpreting the replies. Most of the suggested schools do not require a profession of faith and will accept students of any (or no) faith. Conservative students are flocking to these schools and conservative think tanks and organizations are hiring from them.</p>
<p>[More</a> students are drawn to conservative colleges | csmonitor.com](<a href=“http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0921/p02s01-ussc.html]More”>More students are drawn to conservative colleges - CSMonitor.com)</p>
<p>I never stated my son’s social or religious views.</p>
<p>so asking about school for a conservative in the header question, wasn’t your son?</p>
<p>I wasn’t asking for schools for a conservative kid…I was asking how the professors were at LACs in NE.</p>
<p>Well, if you actually want advice, I think you would be better off supplying more information rather withholding and than seeming to play gotcha. In my case, in particular, you misinterpreted what I wrote and then responded in a way that seemed snarky. But OK. I’ll assume that you actually want advice and not to play gotcha. Let me respond to the question you asked directly in post 808 and explain how it is connected to my earlier response.</p>
<p>Most NE LACs would not be a good choice for a kid who doesn’t want to hear professors’ political opinions if they are liberal. Most of these schools, and most institutions of higher learning in NE (and probably in the OECD countries), are politically correct to a faretheewell. It is so embedded in their worldview that they aren’t the least bit self-conscious about it. And, many are rather self-righteous about it. So, if your son does not want to a) be challenged; b) debate his views; and c) occasionally be castigated for “retrograde” views, he should not go to a NE LAC. End of Story.</p>
<p>That is why I was suggesting alternatives. And, I was inquiring about whether Christian colleges would meet your and/or your son’s criteria or whether there was something else you and/or your son were seeking.</p>
<p>shawbridge…that’s what I gathered. Thanks for your honest, to the point view of NE LACS…that was helpful.</p>
<p>…in which Fang said:</p>
<p>“I took Winchester to be approving Berube’s idea that there is no “other side” that any professor could possibly be advocating in the case of the Tuskegee experimental subjects-- that is, there’s no respectable academic, liberal or conservative, who would approve of not treating patients’ syphilis just so scientists could learn more about the progression of the disease. Is that right?”</p>
<p>Yes, that’s right, as far as it goes. But my point was more general than that. My point goes beyond just the Tuskegee or Holocaust experiments, and also beyond the arena of academia. I think there are many things that none of us would tolerate no matter who we are. There are some things toward which it is entirely correct for all of us to be intolerant.</p>
<p>In the same post Fang also said:</p>
<p>“I further assumed that we were then supposed to conclude that this is a caricature of conservative academics’ beliefs-- that no conservative would approve of the Tuskegee abuse, but there are other academic positions disfavored and ignored by liberal academics that conservatives academics would teach. Is this right?”</p>
<p>No, that’s not right. My point was as I described above, and no more. Don’t assume. We all know what that does.</p>
<p>from winchester’s quoting of the fiske guide: “A place that emphasizes the Western tradition rather than multiculturalism”</p>
<p>…i am still wondering why this would be an important feature of a college (or why anyone would want it, period). i hope it’s not the legacy of manifest destiny.</p>
<p>My D’s English Comp teacher at the state college where she’s a dual-enrolled high school student spent the entire semester asserting that George Bush should be killed. My D was wise enough to play along and wrote the kinds of papers that would appeal to someone asserting the President should be killed. She got an “A.”</p>
<p>Swarthmore has a poli-sci professor who defines Conservatism as a movement to enforce the disparity between the haves and have-nots, support the status quo, and eliminate social and cultural competition. </p>
<p>He’s not right?</p>
<p>hellojan: Swarthmore’s political science professor is wrong, probably because your professor knows no conservatives.</p>
<p>Conservatism is a movement to increase freedom through encouraging people to achieve what they can. Conservatives recognize that tomorrow’s “haves” are among today’s “have nots,” and vice versa.</p>
<p>Conservatives do not oppose “have nots” becoming “haves.” In fact, most conservatives are not the “rich,” but rather a rather “solid” middle class. The “rich” tend to be liberals who believe the restrictions on people’s freedom that their grand schemes for society necessitate should not, will not, and do not apply to them, because they are “who they are.” Al Gore comes to mind here.</p>
<p>Unlike your professor, conservatives don’t worry too much about there being a disparity in and of itself. Conservatives are much more concerned that people like your professor who deign to appoint themselves arbiters of who should have what. That should concern you as well.</p>
<p>Insofar as “big government” is the status quo, conservatives can hardly be accused of supporting that. Certainly, liberals are those who insist on trapping future generations of the poor in the status quo of our awful big city public schools, while sending their own kids to the selfsame private schools from which they would bar those of the classes for which they feign such benefaction.</p>
<p>I have no idea of what eliminating “social and cultural competition” means. Conservatives don’t give a flip about one’s derivation. My guess is your professor thinks all kinds of decisions should be made on the basis of race, religion, sex, etc.</p>
<p>Conservatives sharply disagree among themselves on such issues as immigration, with some believing human resources should freely flow across borders just like goods and services. Others believe illegal immigration should be halted immediately and are not too keen on legal immigration. Still others believe legal immigration is broken and must be fixed before illegal immigration can be fixed. I seriously doubt your professor even realizes there are substantial parts of the conservative movement which line up as I have described.</p>
<p>Your professor’s education would be enhanced if it included actual knowledge of a few, cross-section representatives of substantial minority of his or her fellow Americans.</p>
<p>It seems most liberal professors live in a bubble…certainly don’t want them teaching my kids. It should be a requirement for any professor to have actually worked in the “real world” before teaching.</p>
<p>Senior’s Dad, your heartfelt response to hellojan’s ■■■■■■■■ provocation exhibits the same kind of blindness you attribute to his (probably fictional, but certainly mischaracterized) Swarthmore professor. If you are willing to believe that professors are “wrong” because they don’t know any conservatives, or that liberals support the status quo of urban public education, then you are as misguided as you believe them to be.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, you undercut your own argument: If “conservatives don’t give a flip about one’s derivation,” then who are the people who are “not too keen on legal immigration”? Is it the liberals who support the English-only laws? Who look, as the Fiske guide suggests, for colleges that emphasize the Western tradition over multicuturalism? (And, as for defending the status quo, see winchester’s equally passionate confession of conservatism some dozens of pages ago, the centerpiece of which was near-religious regard for the status quo.)</p>
<p>geeps, I don’t want any liberal professors teaching your kid, either. Please take him elsewhere.</p>
<p>It’s amazing to me how these discussions so quickly devolve into the bickering and back and forth accusations and fictitious anecdotal evidence that allows one to classify the other as less than worthy or possibly insane.</p>
<p>I know where I stand on this issue.</p>
<p>I want my daughter to have excellent and challenging professors who encourage her to develop her own understanding of the subject matter and its relationship to the world around her.</p>
<p>Liberal? Conservative? I hope it’s not necessary to label them at all.</p>
<p>And BTW, as a side note to the original question about whether a conservative student should attend a NE LAC. . . my daughter claims to know more than a few conservatives at her most liberal of liberal arts colleges. Somehow, they seem to thrive. Possibly they even get to hone their arguments?</p>
<p>But if you S/D doesn’t like to hear a professor’s non-conforming opinions then he or she is certainly better off at a school more closely adhering to his or her political views.</p>
<p>Personally, I think that if we can’t even engage in civil discourse on the fundamental ideas that form the basis for our society in our places of higher learning then we are in for some rough times.</p>
<p>“geeps, I don’t want any liberal professors teaching your kid, either. Please take him elsewhere”</p>
<p>Whatever you say JHS</p>
<p>JHS: Interesting that I am subject to “blindness” because I enunciate my beliefs that differ from yours. What happened to inclusiveness and love and compassion?</p>
<p>Liberals are certain they know better than anyone else and grasp at the force of government or anything else they can get their hands on to enforce their beliefs on everyone else.</p>
<p>This thinking gives me the willies. Any thinking person should have the same concern.</p>