<p><a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/24/sports/cycling/lance-armstrong-ends-fight-against-doping-charges-losing-his-7-tour-de-france-titles.html?_r=1&hp[/url]”>http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/24/sports/cycling/lance-armstrong-ends-fight-against-doping-charges-losing-his-7-tour-de-france-titles.html?_r=1&hp</a></p>
<p>I wonder if the doping caused the cancer.</p>
<p>Dstark, as someone who has a husband who is a testicular cancer survivor, I find that offensive. Lance was diagnosed at 25, I think. Testicular cancer is the number one solid tumor cancer diagnosed in men under 40. Lance was probably decades before any possible drug use could have added to his risk profile.
Not that I think his record is clean. I wouldnt be at all surprised if he was doping for years.<br>
Just don’t blame the cancer diagnosis on the (possible) behavior.
Sorry to hear, as I love the work his foundation has done.</p>
<p>I did not mean for my comment to be offensive.</p>
<p>I said I wonder.</p>
<p>I’m sorry to hear this, though I guess it was likely. Dstark, I agree with dragonmom that’s it a little unseemly to suppose that.</p>
<p>still no positive tests…</p>
<p>at worst, Lance competed on a level playing field, since all the other big names from his time have been busted for doping. At best, he beat all the dopers while he was clean.</p>
<p>I don’t see how the USADA can take his TDF titles. What do they have authority over?</p>
<p>really glad our tax money gets spent on the Lance Armstrong witch hunt; obviously there are no more pressing issues.</p>
<p>Stripped of his TDF titles?? :eek: :(</p>
<p>I did not say everybody who has testicular cancer used performing enhancing drugs or that every person who has or had cancer caused his or her own cancer.</p>
<p>I just wonder…</p>
<p>the extra hilarious part is if they take his TDF titles, Jan Ullrich (an admitted doper) will get more of them, for all his 2nd place finishes.</p>
<p>Dstark, and you won’t find anybody more opposed to doping than me. I guess it was kind of a knee jerk reaction. Like if your mom had breast cancer and someone posted a news story where someone famous had a bad life-style and I posted that her lifestyle had possibly caused her cancer. At 25.</p>
<p>Lance doped pre-cancer. This I know for sure, but I still wanted to believe he was clean post-cancer. Now I have doubts, but he didn’t do anything all the rest were not also doing, and he deserves to keep the titles. I’m very sad about the whole thing. I know Lance, have been on a swim team with him and have competed in triathlons with him when he was a teenager. He’s a pain in the ass, but he is still a hero to me and my family.</p>
<p>I have no idea what should be done about doping.</p>
<p>I would prefer there wasn’t any doping.</p>
<p>Is that realistic?</p>
<p>Dragonmom, I wish your husband the best.</p>
<p>After the horror he endured having cancer at 25, I don’t understand why he would use something that could conceivably cause future cancers or worse?</p>
<p>Dstark, thanks, he’s been fine for 25 years
MOWC, where do you see the LiveStrong foundation going after this.? I use lots of their info in my class and have been worried about a major crash.
I feel bad for kids now. It’s so seldom that a childhood hero lasts.</p>
<p>soccerguy:</p>
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<p>USADA, while recognized by congress, is not a government organization. Your tax dollars are not at work here.</p>
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<p>Gutted. One of the best days I had, on one of the best vacations I ever had, was in 2003 on the Champs, glorious and sunny, watching him win #5. At my hotel that evening, watching the ceremony again on TV, I realized I was just off camera. The gal I had chatted with for hours was right next to me, and on camera. TV doesn’t really do justice to how fast those guys go!</p>
<p>Please, Lance, say it ain’t so.</p>
<p>Our tax dollars were used in a federal criminal investigation of Armstrong’s doping which resulted in no charges being filed.</p>
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<p>^this.</p>
<p>And what did accomplish? It confused and hurt all the people who were inspired by him, supported by him, and who thrilled in Armstrong’s triumphs.</p>
<p>This is no surprise. As it is for MOWC, truly, no surprise, but disappointing nonetheless.</p>
<p>My hope is that Livestrong has a life of its own and won’t be affected too much. I think most people are sick of the whole witch hunt and have stopped caring about the doping connection. He is and was still the best of all of them-and it was a level playing field one way or another.</p>
<p>I have mixed feelings about this. First, I do believe he was doping–a close friend of mine was a professional cyclist before and during the Armstrong days and apparently it was widely known that he was doing it. But I also think in some ways using drugs is no different from using other things to enhance athletic performance. The bikes, the helmets, the training–everything is improved from how it was in previous generations (the same is true for many other sports). So I don’t think it’s ever going to be a fair comparison to rank a modern-day athlete against one from years ago, before all this stuff was available.</p>
<p>I think a lot of us, including myself, have an instinctive dislike of Lance Armstrong because we know he left his wife and three young kids for someone else–after his wife had seen him through all the trials of his cancer.</p>
<p>As for why a federal investigation is necessary for this, I don’t know. There are lots of white-collar crimes that need investigating, obviously. This is just more of a yellow-lycra crime, I guess. But we seem to go after athletes in a variety of sports after they have peaked in their careers, with sometimes unfavorable results.</p>