@MrElonMusk "Also, gpa and test scores aren’t the sole determinants in the process. Keep that in mind. " Not only are grades and test scores NOT key determinants but apparently neither are ECs, Service hours, or internships. Reading through people’s creds + whether or not they got in/waitlisted/rejected is not making ANY sense to me!
D was accepted to chemical engineering
SAT 1510 ( one sitting)
UWGPA 4.0
Decent ECs & volunteer & awards
One visit- why Lehigh? Essay demonstrated knowledge of the school.
Feel grateful she was accepted as many with strong stats are rejected or waitlisted- Lehigh seems very big into protecting yield as we had noted on our school district’s naviance acceptance unt.
D getting error message when trying to set up accepted student portal- any helpful hints?
Did anyone else receive horrible Financial Aid? My grants + loans package does not come anywhere close to meeting the difference between my EFC and the cost of attendance!
@MESMES This year has been very weird in college admissions. There is no clear pattern in what colleges want in their applicants…
Did anybody else find out their financial aid? I’m still confused as to why they said I was missing things when clearly I was not (I double checked all my documents, FAFSA, CSS, etc.)
@boogiedad thanks so much, I was able to access my financial aid award!
ACCEPTED
32 ACT 4.31 WGPA
I got a lot of FA mostly in the form of a grant, will be hard to turn this down
Waitlisted
3.4 GPA 28ACT
international student accepted. cant log in to the portal due to public wifi issues but yall have got me worried about the aid ill receive @-)
Accepted to engineering school (bioengineering)!
SAT: 1480 (800 math)
ACT: 34
GPA: 3.91/4.61
9/600 rank
800 chem
770 math 2
@MESMES : Also find it strange my son got waitlisted as well. ACT: 35, (35 on all subtests), GPA: 4.8/5 and 3.97/4. 8 AP classes (5’s so far on 2 of them), top 1% of class. varsity sports (captain on one), vol. hours and lots of EC. Admitted so far to: UVA, Northeastern,. Uconn, UVM, UNH and Bentley (last 4 all honors). Not sure what they else they wanted? Best of luck to your D.
There are many of you on this thread with fabulous stats that were waitlisted.
Lehigh definitely practices Yield Protection. And if you spend some time studying their stats, it’s actually pretty evident. These are the stats from class of 2021 right off of their website. Years earlier the stats were even more obvious. They accept a higher percentage of kids from the second wrong of scores than the first (I added the last column):
SAT Score ACT Applied Admits % accepted
1500-1600 34-36 2,566 824 32.1
1400-1490 32-33 4,338 1416 32.6
1300-1390 29-31 3,337 810 24.3
1200-1290 27-28 1,964 303 15.4
1100-1190 24-26 804 106 13.1
Below 1100 Below 24 371 30 8.1
Missing 491 0
I’ve been noticing this trend for years. I think the gap between the top two tiers is narrowing a bit each year, but it is still quite telling that they are even close to even.
To their credit, I find Lehigh to be one of the more transparent schools when it comes to their admissions.
To those of you in that first rung that were waitlisted (were any of you outright denied??), maybe if you demonstrate a lot of interest after accepting your waitlist spot, it might help. Or ask your GC to contact them.
@collegemomjam I do not even know what “Yield Protection” even means - why turn down exceptional applicants over good (or worse) applicants? Clearly excellent candidates exist at all levels and that would be demonstrated in non-quantifiable ways…but what are those ways that some of the kids in this highest rung didn’t exhibit? Do they think they know what is in their hearts and minds of these kids and families and could ‘just tell’ they wouldn’t choose Lehigh? Were they looking for some magic key word or tricky phrase in the essay that would communicate to admissions “ohmygodijustcan’twaittocometoLehigh-it’smymostveryfavoriteschoolinthewholewideworld!” ? Were they looking for 2 or 3 visits and the student to have bugged the crud out of professors in their chosen major, rather than one campus visit? Those are not easy or inexpensive to do when you’re from out of area.
Clearly Lehigh is specifically and deliberately NOT taking the best candidates. So they publish statistics? They actually are not helpfully transparent since there isn’t any apparent reason that they took a 1200/24/3.6gpa student over a 1510/35/4.3gpa student - in fact it is the opposite of “transparent” since we can’t “see” why they did what they did. I get they have to balance (gamble!) who they admit/waitlist and who will actually come - so they choose from lower rungs so they can say we admitted X students and a high percentage (YY%) enrolled?
Yes these kids have choices but Lehigh is not a safety/“Let me just apply to that place over there in Bethlehem” kind of school, at least it wasn’t for my daughter.
The statistic I want to see is the YY% in my example above - how many of the admits actually ended up enrolling. Obviously I am shocked based on other admits and offers - would’ve been expected from the super-elites…but Lehigh?? Foregoing the highest rung of candidates by rejecting 2/3rds of the kids with over a 1500 SAT, and going for many HUNDREDS of candidates scoring below a1200, does not do anything to increase the overall ACADEMIC quality of their student body but obviously they are going for something beyond being an academically superior school.
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Were scholarships released yet? With all the portal confusion I am not sure if it was. Did any one find out they got a scholarship award?
@collegemomjam : Can you tell us what the phrase “Yield Protection” means and how it helps those institutions that follow that practice? Thanks!
For those with great stats and probably great options, if a school doesn’t want my/your kid, than it’s not a good fit. Best to go to the school where their talents are wanted that’s the best fit, not the best school overall. Although, in my son’s case thanks to how Lehigh handled his application, he will be going to a better school that seems to be a better fit. Best of luck.
Accepted yesterday and I still can’t believe it.
Deferred ED 1
SAT: 1420
Major: Earth and Environmental Sciences
GPA: 3.89 W → explained low grades of spring of junior year in my common app essay
Over 100+ hours of volunteer work at meaningful places that tie to my passions and major interest
One visit unofficially, one officially.
Reached out to regional admissions counselor to demonstrate continued interest after I was deferred ED
Talked directly with the head of my major’s department to express extreme interest
No one from my school in the past 3 years has been accepted (according to Naviance)
10/10 internships that correlate with my intended major
3 LOR’s : 9/10
Varsity swimmer for 4 years and captain this year → led my team to win our district championship for the first time in our school’s history
Recreational equestrian for 10 years, 2 years competing with a collegiate team (the GWU team)
In an Early College program where I have been taking a full college course-load at GWU for the past two years
Was able to access my admitted students portal and see financial aid, no errors.
In reference to the “portal trick” that was referenced a couple days ago: when I attempted to access the admitted students portal with my supposed username (which ended up being correct) was received a message stating: “Unable to locate security questions.”
Idk if it actually has any correlation though
@chipperd Yield is the percentage of admitted students that actually enroll - so @collegemomjam is saying they want to keep that as high as possibly without overenrolling their freshman class. Just like “acceptance rates” are used in some (IMO less credible) ranking methodologies (like US News & World Reports), perhaps “Yield” is a ranking factor too - I can’t say I’ve seen it though.
And when I say “less credible ranking methodologies” use “Acceptance Rate” I mean that schools can, and do, actively game that statistic to increase their ranking. Examples are the increase in rank of Northeastern over the past 20 years - it is my understanding they actively targeted lowering their “acceptance rate” by increasing the applicant pool and rejecting more and more of them each year (their incoming class wasn’t increased) - I can’t help but think, anecdotally based on our family’s experience, that University of Chicago is doing the same thing - there was a reasonably long stretch of time where a week wouldn’t go by without mail (slick, personalized, high production-value promotional materials) from UofChicago… Applications are pretty lucrative for schools too - if a school can get 10,000 to apply and only accept 2,000, that is not only a low acceptance rate of 20% but it also rakes in 10,000 x $70 fee for a haul of $700,000.
Has anyone set up their admitted student portal, clicked on “Banner” and checked out their student’s Cost of Attendance?
We are hoping for merit and did not apply for need-based FA. My student’s COA was their full price: > $68,000. I’m not sure if this means he will not be awarded any merit money.
Has anyone found any merit-based awards this way?