<p>Wow - I’m amazed an attorney took this case and got it in front of a judge. It seems so without grounds. And the student in question got to attend the program for free because her dad’s a Lehigh prof.</p>
<p>Really, who needs urban legends anymore? Reality is amazing enough.</p>
<p>People have a right to sue. If you take that away, you take away freedom and democracy. Having a right to sue does impose costs, particularly on those you sue, but as defenders of guns like to say, that’s the price of freedom and here we’re only talking time and money not lives. </p>
<p>The gist of this suit seems to be that a particular grade actually changed the degree the plaintiff got and the certification she can qualify for. I have no idea how that works. That is a claim of harm. It’s up to her and her lawyer to persuade a judge and jury. It’s also possible she’ll not only fail but be forced to pay costs. I don’t know how that works in PA.</p>
<p>The comment about nanny state has it completely wrong. This is a private matter in which a private person has hired a private lawyer. They happen to be suing a state entity, which is now being forced to defend itself and to spend money doing that. The alternative would of course be to prevent people from suing state entities, which would save money but cause harm and restrict freedom. (And there are many limits imposed by government on its own liability.)</p>
<p>I don’t see this case as having merit but the trial system is designed to find out if a case has merit.</p>
<p>Most of the lawsuits where somebody was really injured don’t get splashy stories in the press, so we get an uneven view of what’s actually happening. And some of the cases that are reported are misunderstood (like the famous McDonald’s hot coffee case). The abuse of the tort system is significantly exaggerated.</p>
<p>And don’t forget that political discussions violate the TOS.</p>
<p>A very interesting unusual case, with some twists. (They are not even suing a state entity, as Lehigh is a private institution) Seems to me they all deserve each other - plaintiff, the father, the lawyers, the university. I look forward to reading more.</p>
<p>Many of us are prone to advise youth, “Life is not always fair.” I guess now we can add, but we will let the court decide.</p>
<p>It is an interesting case–what if it turns out that the professor really did have it in for this student, and unfairly gave her a 0 for class participation? The ripple effect is significant. I tend to think the decision will go for the university, because I think they would have already bent over backward for the daughter of a faculty member. But there may be some faculty politics behind the whole thing.</p>
<p>It sounds like a nutty lawsuit, but imagine if there were a smoking gun, such as an e-mail from one professor to another saying something like “We can’t let this [fill in unacceptable category of person] get this degree–you’ve got to find some way to keep her from getting a B.”</p>
<p>This suit sounds on the surface that it is without merit, and surely the university tried to get it thrown out on summary judgement, so there be more to it than meets the eye. Accusations of sexual discrimination, which appears to be part of the complaint, are probably not taken lightly.</p>
<p>This whole thing reminds me of the ridiculous claim (cant recall if there was litigation offhand) of the girl who said a grad program, also in the mental health field, refused to take her because she was under 21. Her daddy was also a professor at the university she attended. A pattern seems to emerge…</p>
<p>This is not my personal opinion of Lehigh as i don’t know the students there personally… but the students there, as a whole, have a reputation in this area of being a bit stuck up and spoiled with attitudes. They don’t tip appropriately at most places according to waitresses and bar tenders. There are places that many people avoid going so they don’t have to deal with them. </p>
<p>Obviously this is not all students but I don’t hear these things about any of the other local colleges around here and we have quite a few.</p>
<p>I was even at a small restaurant/bar at a beach in Maryland once and the waitress there asked where we were from. We told her and she told us about a school in our area that was just in town for a volley ball tournament and how they basically took over the entire place with And not one person left a tip. It was Lehigh. Pretty bad when that reputation makes it to other states as well.</p>
<p>We left her twenty bucks on a forty dollar bill to try to make up for it.</p>
<p>Things like this don’t exactly improve that reputation.</p>
<p>For academic graduate programs(MA/MS/PhD), that is correct. Moreover, there are some graduate departments/divisions where the advisers/deans will sternly warn grad students who received too many Bs in a semester/year to improve or consider other opportunities. A B in academic grad school is often viewed like a C-level grade in undergrad.</p>
<p>Considering the article states she showed up to meetings with Prof to dispute grades with her father as a GRAD STUDENT, I’m inclined to believe that her classroom behavior/immaturity may have played a part in justly receiving a 0 for class participation.</p>
<p>My undergrad Profs had similar policies…including taking off class participation points accumulated through the semester for “negative class participation” such as being rude/disrespectful of other students, interrupting too many times, etc.</p>
<p>I’m frankly surprised the plaintiff could find a lawyer for this. What a waste of time and energy. </p>
<p>According to the article, the student regularly used profanity and broke down in tears in class, so it appears that she’s not temperamentally suited to a career in professional counseling. It’s unfortunate that her father is enabling her. Who would hire her after this publicity?</p>
<p>My thought exactly,NJSue. Who would ever want to hire her after this? What were she and her father thinking? It seems like an outrageous lawsuit and that the plaintiff is really embarassing herself and her family.</p>
<p>Sorry about the Lehigh mistake, but that of course means it’s a purely private matter.</p>
<p>I don’t like the way people automatically point at the government as the fault. For example, in Boston they are having difficulties with snow plowing after the blizzard. What happened? Private contractors failed to show up, did a bad job, etc. Not the city employees.</p>