<p>LOL-- here’s a perfect example of how posts written in generalities or responding to several comments get assumed to be directed to someone in particular, or assumed to be to one person when its a response to another post. Its so confusing!</p>
<p>Garland, I initially responded to your post, which I assumed was directed at the many posters who did, admittedly make light of a repeated posting comment that sometimes makes posters want to put a stick in their eye. I merely commented that I personally find posters’ use of humor preferable to ones that may be more annoying. That said, I suppose we each have our own definition of what we find annoying (or funny). </p>
<p>I have no idea if you were speaking, in part, to me or not, and it matters not. I was merely responding with my personal thought on that matter. Perhaps, since we have now been blessed with 100 PMs available to us (thank you, powers that be!!) it might be better to address posters directly via PM if one feels their posts are in need of admonishment. My response about using the ignore feature was in response to romani’s suggestion, not to you. I hope you don’t feel the need to use the ignore button, as I greatly enjoy your comments and interchange. The same holds true for romani.</p>
<p>Now FWIW, I DO have a cousin who is a school psychologist!! I admit I found it funny, and it it was too tongue in cheek, well, oops.</p>
<p>OK-- carry on, back to topic, please. Serves me right for responding at all, I guess. Kill the messenger :(</p>
<p>Okay, mea culpa! I actually wasn’t tracking who were the commenters (I know it’s the same general crowd most of the time…but I never remember who). Sorry if I mixed you up in that. Even though I’m not an ignore button fan, I think Romani’s right that it might have utility for some specific instances.</p>
<p>But more to the point…100 messages??? I only have 50! Whom have I offended? Or whom do you know??? Man!</p>
<p>Chubby Checker is suing HP & Palm for $500M because an app sold for Palm is called the “Chubby Checker”. It purports to derive the size of a man’s thing from his shoe size. It has - was prior to the suit - downloaded fewer than 100 times.</p>
<p>But to give some actual weight to this: he sent a cease & desist order months ago and it seems to have been ignored. But of course this suit is way more publicity so … where’s the actual damage?</p>
<p>Just today I read an article on Medscape about how the Millenial kids feel entitled to grades and degrees, that to them they are consumers and it’s the colleges’ responsibility to give them what they seek. The article is specific to pharmacy students. Just amazing. I graduated 38 years ago and I cannot even imagine this.</p>
<p>“Check your PMs. You now have room for 100 messages. that bar atop the PMs has more GREEN.”</p>
<p>That is great that they changed that. I’m always leaving it at 48 messages, then trying to decide which ones to delete if I have to. I wouldn’t have noticed if I hadn’t read this thread.</p>
<p>thus ends my perfect verdict prediction run on CC trial watch.</p>
<p>I still want to go on record as saying I abhor the idea that a teacher can give a zero in class participation to a student who has participated in a class. Nuff said.</p>
<p>From the article I linked, it seemed the school did allow for that. However, it seems the stumbling block is the “maturity condition” which requires the plaintiff to acknowledge & admit she acted unprofessionally in class. She is reluctant to do so as admitting to such would have the same effect of denying her ability to be state licensed according to that article. </p>
<p>To the Prof/school, plaintiff’s reluctance to admit what they felt was unprofessional and disruptive behavior is clear proof she’s not mature enough to return. To the plaintiff, the maturity requirement placed before her is not only “unfair”, but also doesn’t improve upon her current situation. </p>
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<p>Judging by the excerpt, it seems the judge felt the plaintiff failed to meet the required burden of proof with the evidence she provided to the court. In short, unless she’s able to provide compelling new evidence and/or prove the judge really screwed up in this ruling, her case is effectively dead in the water. </p>
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<p>So Profs shouldn’t have allowances for situations of “negative classroom participation” such as a given student having ongoing classroom issues of disrespect towards classmates/Prof, frequent/ongoing interrupting Prof/students out of turn, disruptive outbursts, etc? </p>
<p>Incidentally, the Prof/school reported that plaintiff was behaving in ways that was unprofessional, immature, and otherwise negatively affecting the conduct of the class. </p>
<p>In addition to the fact that attending most/all class sessions doesn’t necessarily mean a given student participated in class discussions/practicums, not all participation is necessarily positive.</p>
<p>To some extent, it also depends on whether the next level of judges who could hear the case have heavy caseloads they’re trying to work through or not. </p>
<p>From what I’ve heard from several experienced lawyers, the more heavily burdened the judges are with caseloads, the less tolerant they are to take on appeals of cases turned down because the prior judge felt the evidence presented wasn’t enough to meet the burden of proof. </p>
<p>Such judges are wary of being weighed down by what they may perceive as frivolous cases which waste the court’s time…especially in courts already burdened with heavy caseloads on perceived higher priority cases. </p>
<p>The presiding judge in this case already indicated displeasure at having such a case even reaching the court through the admonishment to both the plaintiff and defense in the prior hearing before this ruling.</p>
This time, at least, you heard wrong–that’s really not how the appellate process works. The Supreme Court gets to decide whether to take on appeals, but lower appellate courts generally don’t.</p>
<p>"ncidentally, the Prof/school reported that plaintiff was behaving in ways that was unprofessional, immature, and otherwise negatively affecting the conduct of the class. "</p>
<p>I get it, that is what the Professor is saying. What I can not figure out is what is driving that. This is a counseling class. Did the professor make statements against gays? Did the student object? I would like to know SPECIFICS. What did the student say to warrant this?</p>
<p>Did the professor make comments against single-sex marriages? Comments about who should be able to adopt? Did the student interrupt? I would like to know more.</p>