Let's Play the College Ranking Game (Plus/Minus)

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<p>15- MIT
16- Claremont McKenna
17- Amherst
18- Swarthmore
19- UVA
20- Emory University
21- Princeton University
22- Bowdoin
23- Williams
24- Duke
25- Wesleyan
26- UCLA
27- Georgetown
28- University of Southern California
29- Wake Forest University
30- Cornell
31- Hamilton
32- Washington & Lee
33- Stanford
34- Carleton
35- Davidson
36- Colgate
37- Macalester
38- Brown
39- Colby
40- Wellesley
41- Vanderbilt University
42- Grinnell
43- Bates
44- Oberlin
45- Johns Hopkins University
46- Pomona
47- Vassar
48- Notre Dame
49- Smith
50- Harvard</p>

<p>University of California–Berkeley 10
California Institute of Technology 10
Carnegie Mellon University 6
Columbia University 10
University of Chicago 10
Dartmouth College 4
Harvey Mudd College 8
Haverford 8
Middlebury 3
Northwestern University 12
University of Pennsylvania 8
Rice University 4
Washington University in St. Louis 3
Yale 7</p>

<ul>
<li>Northwestern</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>University of California–Berkeley</li>
</ul>

682

<p>Well it depends in what subject. Of course a LAC cannot compete with Caltech in the sciences or engineering but in the social sciences and humanities I would say they can compete and provide a better education. Good point alwaysleah, that is a better way to think about it. I do not prefer LACs or Universities either way but as someone pointed out so clearly, they do get a lot of hate on here.</p>

683

<p>EmBio02 skipped over my post. Here’s the correct list</p>

<p>15- MIT
16- Claremont McKenna
17- Amherst
18- Swarthmore
19- UVA
20- Emory University
21- Princeton University
22- Bowdoin
23- Williams
24- Duke
25- Wesleyan
26- UCLA
27- Georgetown
28- University of Southern California
29- Wake Forest University
30- Cornell
31- Hamilton
32- Washington & Lee
33- Stanford
34- Carleton
35- Davidson
36- Colgate
37- Macalester
38- Brown
39- Colby
40- Wellesley
41- Vanderbilt University
42- Grinnell
43- Bates
44- Oberlin
45- Johns Hopkins University
46- Pomona
47- Vassar
48- Notre Dame
49- Smith
50- Harvard</p>

<p>University of California–Berkeley 10
California Institute of Technology 10
Carnegie Mellon University 6
Columbia University 10
University of Chicago 10
Dartmouth College 4
Harvey Mudd College 8
Haverford 8
Middlebury 2
Northwestern University 12
University of Pennsylvania 8
Rice University 5
Washington University in St. Louis 2
Yale 7</p>

684

<p>Hold on…
TheKongo and EmBio2 posted at he same time and the numbers were messed up again. </p>

<p>at 687 here is the list:
University of California–Berkeley 11
California Institute of Technology 10
Carnegie Mellon University 6
Columbia University 10
University of Chicago 10
Dartmouth College 4
Harvey Mudd College 8
Haverford 8
Middlebury 3
Northwestern University 12
University of Pennsylvania 8
Rice University 4
Washington University in St. Louis 3
Yale 7</p>

<p>Kongo added Rice and took away Midd and Washu
EmBio2 added NU and took away Yale and Cal</p>

<p>Here is what it should look llike:
University of California–Berkeley 10
California Institute of Technology 10
Carnegie Mellon University 6
Columbia University 10
University of Chicago 10
Dartmouth College 4
Harvey Mudd College 8
Haverford 8
Middlebury 2
Northwestern University 13
University of Pennsylvania 8
Rice University 5
Washington University in St. Louis 2
Yale 6</p>

685

<p>This is the CORRECTED LIST: 

15- MIT
16- Claremont McKenna
17- Amherst
18- Swarthmore
19- UVA
20- Emory University
21- Princeton University
22- Bowdoin
23- Williams
24- Duke
25- Wesleyan
26- UCLA
27- Georgetown
28- University of Southern California
29- Wake Forest University
30- Cornell
31- Hamilton
32- Washington & Lee
33- Stanford
34- Carleton
35- Davidson
36- Colgate
37- Macalester
38- Brown
39- Colby
40- Wellesley
41- Vanderbilt University
42- Grinnell
43- Bates
44- Oberlin
45- Johns Hopkins University
46- Pomona
47- Vassar
48- Notre Dame
49- Smith
50- Harvard
University of California–Berkeley 10
California Institute of Technology 10
Carnegie Mellon University 6
Columbia University 10
University of Chicago 10
Dartmouth College 4
Harvey Mudd College 8
Haverford 8
Middlebury 2
Northwestern University 13
University of Pennsylvania 8
Rice University 5
Washington University in St. Louis 2
Yale 6</p>

686

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<p>This is flat out wrong. LACs provide a well rounded education. Science is a liberal art, just as the humanities are. The difference between a LAC and a university is that LACs emphasize general education requirements, usually have smaller course offerings/are smaller, and don’t have graduate schools.</p>

<p>Comparing Caltech to “LACs” isn’t very accurate; it’s cherry picking. Of course Caltech is a leader in science/engineering, but that’s among LACs AND universities. Swarthmore has an engineering program that can rival any universities’ and many other LACs have excellent science programs with great grad school placement. Many universities do the same. You have to compare apples to apples - when comparing equivalent LACs/universities, it’s not about whether it’s science (which is a liberal art) or humanities, it’s about the relative pros/cons of each school. It’s not like LACs have everyone studying humanities and completely ignore the other liberal arts.</p>

687

<p>15- MIT
16- Claremont McKenna
17- Amherst
18- Swarthmore
19- UVA
20- Emory University
21- Princeton University
22- Bowdoin
23- Williams
24- Duke
25- Wesleyan
26- UCLA
27- Georgetown
28- University of Southern California
29- Wake Forest University
30- Cornell
31- Hamilton
32- Washington & Lee
33- Stanford
34- Carleton
35- Davidson
36- Colgate
37- Macalester
38- Brown
39- Colby
40- Wellesley
41- Vanderbilt University
42- Grinnell
43- Bates
44- Oberlin
45- Johns Hopkins University
46- Pomona
47- Vassar
48- Notre Dame
49- Smith
50- Harvard</p>

<p>University of California–Berkeley 10
California Institute of Technology 11
Carnegie Mellon University 6
Columbia University 10
University of Chicago 9
Dartmouth College 4
Harvey Mudd College 8
Haverford 8
Middlebury 2
Northwestern University 12
University of Pennsylvania 8
Rice University 5
Washington University in St. Louis 2
Yale 6</p>

<p>+Caltech
-Chicago
-Northwestern</p>

688

<p>15- MIT
16- Claremont McKenna
17- Amherst
18- Swarthmore
19- UVA
20- Emory University
21- Princeton University
22- Bowdoin
23- Williams
24- Duke
25- Wesleyan
26- UCLA
27- Georgetown
28- University of Southern California
29- Wake Forest University
30- Cornell
31- Hamilton
32- Washington & Lee
33- Stanford
34- Carleton
35- Davidson
36- Colgate
37- Macalester
38- Brown
39- Colby
40- Wellesley
41- Vanderbilt University
42- Grinnell
43- Bates
44- Oberlin
45- Johns Hopkins University
46- Pomona
47- Vassar
48- Notre Dame
49- Smith
50- Harvard</p>

<p>University of California–Berkeley 10
California Institute of Technology 10
Carnegie Mellon University 6
Columbia University 10
University of Chicago 9
Dartmouth College 4
Harvey Mudd College 8
Haverford 9
Middlebury 2
Northwestern University 11
University of Pennsylvania 8
Rice University 5
Washington University in St. Louis 2
Yale 6</p>

<ul>
<li>Haverford</li>
<li>Cal Tech</li>
<li>Northwestern</li>
</ul>

689

<p>I had two thoughts…

  1. I think lagunal is too dedicated to this thread :stuck_out_tongue:
  2. HarveyMuddLove voted for caltech :(</p>
690

<p>15- MIT
16- Claremont McKenna
17- Amherst
18- Swarthmore
19- UVA
20- Emory University
21- Princeton University
22- Bowdoin
23- Williams
24- Duke
25- Wesleyan
26- UCLA
27- Georgetown
28- University of Southern California
29- Wake Forest University
30- Cornell
31- Hamilton
32- Washington & Lee
33- Stanford
34- Carleton
35- Davidson
36- Colgate
37- Macalester
38- Brown
39- Colby
40- Wellesley
41- Vanderbilt University
42- Grinnell
43- Bates
44- Oberlin
45- Johns Hopkins University
46- Pomona
47- Vassar
48- Notre Dame
49- Smith
50- Harvard</p>

<p>University of California–Berkeley 10
California Institute of Technology 10
Carnegie Mellon University 6
Columbia University 10
University of Chicago 9
Dartmouth College 4
Harvey Mudd College 8
Haverford 8
Middlebury 1
Northwestern University 11
University of Pennsylvania 8
Rice University 5
Washington University in St. Louis 3
Yale 6</p>

<p>+Washington University in St. Louis
-Middlebury
-Haverford</p>

<p>Someone knock Middlebury!</p>

691

<p>I’d rather WashU gets knocked out instead of Middelbury…</p>

692

<p>^ Haters gonna hate~</p>

693

<p>Take out </p>

<p>WUSTL
RICE
Middlebury</p>

<p>QUICK!</p>

694

<p>Someone take out Middlebury!</p>

695

<p>5- MIT
16- Claremont McKenna
17- Amherst
18- Swarthmore
19- UVA
20- Emory University
21- Princeton University
22- Bowdoin
23- Williams
24- Duke
25- Wesleyan
26- UCLA
27- Georgetown
28- University of Southern California
29- Wake Forest University
30- Cornell
31- Hamilton
32- Washington & Lee
33- Stanford
34- Carleton
35- Davidson
36- Colgate
37- Macalester
38- Brown
39- Colby
40- Wellesley
41- Vanderbilt University
42- Grinnell
43- Bates
44- Oberlin
45- Johns Hopkins University
46- Pomona
47- Vassar
48- Notre Dame
49- Smith
50- Harvard</p>

<p>University of California–Berkeley 10
California Institute of Technology 10
Carnegie Mellon University 6
Columbia University 10
University of Chicago 9
Dartmouth College 4
Harvey Mudd College 8
Haverford 8
Middlebury 2
Northwestern University 11
University of Pennsylvania 8
Rice University 4
Washington University in St. Louis 2
Yale 6</p>

<ul>
<li>middlebury</li>
<li>WUSTL</li>
<li>RICE</li>
</ul>

696

<p>15- MIT
16- Claremont McKenna
17- Amherst
18- Swarthmore
19- UVA
20- Emory University
21- Princeton University
22- Bowdoin
23- Williams
24- Duke
25- Wesleyan
26- UCLA
27- Georgetown
28- University of Southern California
29- Wake Forest University
30- Cornell
31- Hamilton
32- Washington & Lee
33- Stanford
34- Carleton
35- Davidson
36- Colgate
37- Macalester
38- Brown
39- Colby
40- Wellesley
41- Vanderbilt University
42- Grinnell
43- Bates
44- Oberlin
45- Johns Hopkins University
46- Pomona
47- Vassar
48- Notre Dame
49- Smith
50- Harvard</p>

<p>University of California–Berkeley 10
California Institute of Technology 10
Carnegie Mellon University 6
Columbia University 10
University of Chicago 9
Dartmouth College 5
Harvey Mudd College 7
Haverford 8
Middlebury 2
Northwestern University 11
University of Pennsylvania 8
Rice University 3
Washington University in St. Louis 2
Yale 6</p>

<ul>
<li>Dartmouth</li>
<li>Harvey Mudd</li>
<li>Rice</li>
</ul>

697

<p>15- MIT
16- Claremont McKenna
17- Amherst
18- Swarthmore
19- UVA
20- Emory University
21- Princeton University
22- Bowdoin
23- Williams
24- Duke
25- Wesleyan
26- UCLA
27- Georgetown
28- University of Southern California
29- Wake Forest University
30- Cornell
31- Hamilton
32- Washington & Lee
33- Stanford
34- Carleton
35- Davidson
36- Colgate
37- Macalester
38- Brown
39- Colby
40- Wellesley
41- Vanderbilt University
42- Grinnell
43- Bates
44- Oberlin
45- Johns Hopkins University
46- Pomona
47- Vassar
48- Notre Dame
49- Smith
50- Harvard</p>

<p>University of California–Berkeley 10
California Institute of Technology 10
Carnegie Mellon University 6
Columbia University 10
University of Chicago 9
Dartmouth College 5
Harvey Mudd College 7
Haverford 7
Middlebury 1
Northwestern University 11
University of Pennsylvania 8
Rice University 3
Washington University in St. Louis 3
Yale 6</p>

<ul>
<li>WashU</li>
<li>Middlebury</li>
<li>Haverford</li>
</ul>

698

<p>14- Middlebury
15- MIT
16- Claremont McKenna
17- Amherst
18- Swarthmore
19- UVA
20- Emory University
21- Princeton University
22- Bowdoin
23- Williams
24- Duke
25- Wesleyan
26- UCLA
27- Georgetown
28- University of Southern California
29- Wake Forest University
30- Cornell
31- Hamilton
32- Washington & Lee
33- Stanford
34- Carleton
35- Davidson
36- Colgate
37- Macalester
38- Brown
39- Colby
40- Wellesley
41- Vanderbilt University
42- Grinnell
43- Bates
44- Oberlin
45- Johns Hopkins University
46- Pomona
47- Vassar
48- Notre Dame
49- Smith
50- Harvard</p>

<p>University of California–Berkeley 10
California Institute of Technology 10
Carnegie Mellon University 6
Columbia University 10
University of Chicago 9
Dartmouth College 4
Harvey Mudd College 7
Haverford 7
Northwestern University 11
University of Pennsylvania 8
Rice University 3
Washington University in St. Louis 4
Yale 6</p>

<ul>
<li>WashU</li>
<li>Middlebury</li>
<li>Dartmouth</li>
</ul>

699

<p>14- Middlebury
15- MIT
16- Claremont McKenna
17- Amherst
18- Swarthmore
19- UVA
20- Emory University
21- Princeton University
22- Bowdoin
23- Williams
24- Duke
25- Wesleyan
26- UCLA
27- Georgetown
28- University of Southern California
29- Wake Forest University
30- Cornell
31- Hamilton
32- Washington & Lee
33- Stanford
34- Carleton
35- Davidson
36- Colgate
37- Macalester
38- Brown
39- Colby
40- Wellesley
41- Vanderbilt University
42- Grinnell
43- Bates
44- Oberlin
45- Johns Hopkins University
46- Pomona
47- Vassar
48- Notre Dame
49- Smith
50- Harvard</p>

<p>University of California–Berkeley 9
California Institute of Technology 11
Carnegie Mellon University 6
Columbia University 11
University of Chicago 9
Dartmouth College 4
Harvey Mudd College 6
Haverford 7
Northwestern University 10
University of Pennsylvania 8
Rice University 2
Washington University in St. Louis 4
Yale 6</p>

<ul>
<li>Columbia </li>
<li>Rice </li>
<li>Harvey Mudd</li>
</ul>

700

<p>14- Middlebury
15- MIT
16- Claremont McKenna
17- Amherst
18- Swarthmore
19- UVA
20- Emory University
21- Princeton University
22- Bowdoin
23- Williams
24- Duke
25- Wesleyan
26- UCLA
27- Georgetown
28- University of Southern California
29- Wake Forest University
30- Cornell
31- Hamilton
32- Washington & Lee
33- Stanford
34- Carleton
35- Davidson
36- Colgate
37- Macalester
38- Brown
39- Colby
40- Wellesley
41- Vanderbilt University
42- Grinnell
43- Bates
44- Oberlin
45- Johns Hopkins University
46- Pomona
47- Vassar
48- Notre Dame
49- Smith
50- Harvard</p>

<p>University of California–Berkeley 10
California Institute of Technology 11
Carnegie Mellon University 6
Columbia University 10
University of Chicago 9
Dartmouth College 4
Harvey Mudd College 6
Haverford 7
Northwestern University 9
University of Pennsylvania 8
Rice University 2
Washington University in St. Louis 4
Yale 6</p>

<ul>
<li>Berkeley</li>
<li>northwestern</li>
<li>columbia</li>
</ul>