Let's Talk Roses! Oldies and New Ones....

<p>I love roses for fragrance more than anything else. Especially if they are clove/spicy. I have a climber - Westerland that is spicy and a beautiful sunset orange. Also one called Angel Face that is mauve and intensely fragrant - in a sweet rose way. It gets obliterated by black spot though but comes back every year. Westerland is more vigorous. </p>

<p>I’m moving in a few months and will leave my roses behind since I’m moving to a greatly different zone. </p>

<p>I plant flowering chives in my rose bed.
It seems to do the trick. Black spot is my biggest problem.</p>

<p>Mom2, mostly I like ease of care, simple fowers in soft pinks, or sometmes bright pink and suitable for a border. Long flowering, no deadheading or spraying, no careful pruning, and able to handle hot and dry. Those are mostly landscape, floribunda, polyantha, or shrub roses, and the house of Meidland ( might be same as Meilland? ETA; nope! ) are good at that. </p>

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<p>Here is Nearly Wild, a floribunda, just under the edit wire
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<p>BUT Graham Thomas was a rose I fell in love with at another phase of my life. It’s a David Austin rose. Old fashioned “English” rose and scent, but easy to care for. And the color! Usually I don’t pick yellow or orange flowers because it gets SO hot here, but this one stole my heart. Hopefully I can find a link to a picture in time to edit.</p>

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<p>As fond as I am of so many of the varieties mentioned above, if a rose can’t tolerate part-shade, limited air circulation (crammed in with all sorts of other plants) and absence of fungicide it gets the boot in my garden.</p>

<p>I love Rosa glauca. Only a single flush of flowers (single, small, bright pink with white eye) and no fragrance, but its tall arching canes with fine blue-toned foliage and bright red-orange hips make it a star. Self-seeding has brought me two now-mature plants in addition the original one.</p>

<p>Climbers Dortmund (single cherry red with white eye) and Autumn Sunset (apricot) do pretty well in nearly total shade.</p>

<p>Graham Thomas thrives in spite of me, as does Bonica. </p>

<p>Mutabilis (single, delicate form developing into a large fine-textured bush) blooms apricot, changing to pink and then deep pink. It puts on a good show though I wish the apricot stage would last longer.</p>

<p>I often choose plants for fragrance but the rose survivors in my yard are mostly scentless. </p>

<p>Anyone experienced with Winchester Cathedral? I am looking for a standard. In the picture they look gorgeous.</p>

<p>Where does everyone source from? Local garden center or online?</p>

<p>ek4…I love Queen Elizabeth…so tall and gorgeous! </p>

<p>Flowering Chives…are they edible? and do you have to get them mail order?</p>

<p>shrink…thank you!</p>

<p>Do any of you have fave websites for rose info?</p>

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<p>i have never bought roses mail order. I only have bought them at a local garden center. often, this way, you are seeing selections that are right for your zone.</p>

<p>I buy roses at the local nursery so you can see what you are getting.
Yes you can eat chives, (& the flowers).
I would order from these sites if I was so inclined.</p>

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<a href=“http://www.jacksonandperkins.com”>http://www.jacksonandperkins.com</a></p>

<p>I use to order my mom a new rose from Jackson & Perkins catalogue for many years.</p>

<p>Living in FL, i have serious envy of all you rose growers. I can grow pineapples.</p>

<p>Speaking of roses…we moved to a property with several knockout rose bushes, but that section needs something else. What companion plants do you all have in your rose gardens?</p>

<p>Do you want something that blooms at the same time? Things that also like acid soil, heathers, blueberries, rhodedendrons & azaleas.
For perennials, I have some alchemilla ( which looks great with the dew on the leaves) brunnera and catmint.
Annuals vary.
I don’t really have a straight rose bed, I moved things around until I got tired.</p>

<p>variegated hebe looks really nice with roses - I finally lost one in a hard freeze so check the zones, but they are normally easy care and look good all year</p>

<p>I’m not a gardener - I am in my heart, but lack time and skills. I have had two New Dawn Climbing Roses for years, and they thrive despite neglect. I started out with three, one died the first year, the other two are still going strong more than 15 years later. I ordered them from White Flower Farm.</p>

<p>I am interested in planting landscape roses in a couple of difficult areas. We have a patio that is built over a rocky area. Most of it is covered with flat stones, but there are some dirt areas that I need to plant. They both are fine in terms of sun. One is OK, there were rhododendrons growing there for years. The other is small and the dirt is not very deep. </p>

<p>Any suggestions? I like soft yellow, oranges, corals, white. I don’t like pink unless it is very pale, like the New Dawns. I like double flowers.</p>

<p>Oh, I’ve had very good luck with online plant sources. I’ve bought some things from a place in Clare, Mi, called Deer-Resistant Nursery, or something like that. Everything has been beautiful and healthy. And I bought some Vinca Alba from an online source last summer. When it came, the package was very small. Each plant was, literally, a single thread. But they were very healthy, and they spread fast. You know the saying about groundcovers, the first year they sleep, the second they creep, the third they leap? These plants skipped the sleep stage. I use Dave’s Garden now to choose sources. You can search on a plant and bring up a list of vendors who have it in stock. And they have a very good database of reviews of each vendor.</p>

<p>I planted vinca once.
:wink:
Then I learned my lesson.
When the description say " good for pots", take that to mean if you plant it in a bed, expect it to take over.</p>

<p>I wouldnt plant roses in thin soil without digging deep and amending it with lots of organic matter.
Mediterranean plants are made for sun and sand. Lavender, rosemary, pines, cistus.
What zone are you in? You might try natives or cultivars of same species.
Mock orange is fragrant & tolerates a variety of soils blooming in spring & summer.
Or if its a small space, how about a pot or three? Then you can control the planting medium.</p>

<p>Okay, I live in Portland, OR, the city where we plant roses on the sides of freeways because they grow like weeds here. When I lived in Massachusetts, I babied my roses and wrapped them in burlap in the winters, and never ever pruned them except to remove deadwood. Here–no Japanese beetles and seemingly perfect climate. I plant KnockOut roses as a hedge. I try hybrid teas and tear them out if I don’t like them. I go to the garden store and look for plants with glossy, healthy leaves, pretty colors, and some scent. (I refuse to buy scentless roses.) I shove them in pots, in corners that need some color, and I cut them back to four canes, each 18" long, each fall. </p>

<p>I have blooms on my roses now, and I had blooms on my roses until late November last fall.</p>

<p>Don’t hate me.</p>

<p>The worst thing about growing roses in the northwest is that some get black spot from all the rain. But that doesnt usually harm the plant, it just looks bad.
Roses are pretty hardy. My queen elizabeth I moved 3 or 4 times, until it got too big to do so.
I really like native roses, but that means I am constantly pruning runners that attempt to take over.
Another native plant I like is thimbleberry. No thorns!</p>

<p>Thanks for the suggestions, EK and saintfan. Has anyone planted rosemary with their roses? That was one of the suggestions I got at the garden center today. I did pick some up along with verbena and some new azalea. I think I need to play around a little bit and see what works. We’re in zone 8 in an area that gets very, very hot summers.</p>