Liberty University

I am planning on transferring to Liberty University from a community college, but I am worried about being rejected acceptance. The website says a 2.0 gpa is a requirement for transfer students, mine is 2.2. But, the required ACT score is 17 and I received a 24. What are the chances of me being accepted? I applied for Spring 2017.

Why don’t you call and ask them? You’ve cleared their hurdles. They’re not a very tough school to get into. Simply ask. I’m sure they want you (and your tuition)

I got in with less than a 2.0 due to bad grades 10+ years ago, but be prepared to prove yourself. Liberty is not an easy A. They really grill you on the technical aspects of your work and like to assign 4-5 independent smaller research papers per class that due not build upon one another. You will get very tired of finding peer reviewed journal articles after article for your papers. I ended up having to read the Chicago manual of style nearly cover to cover to keep my grades in the mid-high 90’s.

What T26E4 said: if you have cash in hand, Liberty will take it from you. However, I do feel morally compelled to point out that you are likely to receive a better education at your local community college for a fraction of the price.

You realize your comment is biased and based on stereotypes don’t you?

I have studied at three different community colleges over the last fourteen years and have found Liberty University to be significantly more rigorous. I have also studied under UVA faculty moonlighting as adjunct faculty at PVCC in Charlottesville and found them to be only slightly more difficult than what I experienced at Liberty. Furthermore, Liberty has an admission rate of around 20% and is a doctoral university.

I live in the same community as a major aerospace plant. I won’t name it to try to remain confidential but you’ve definitely heard of it. I just met a young man who was hired there straight out of Liberty’s engineering school. While you may have issues with some of their philosphies and practices (I do too) they do work hard to provide a solid education. And their generous NM scholarships (full tuition for commended) do add quite a few talented students to their community.

That’s nice. You enjoy. But it is not a “stereotype” to note that a ‘university’ is offering an education which undercuts the evidence-based methods which characterize university education. Nor is it “biased” to recognize that Liberty has an abysmal 29% graduation rate, is ranked 651st out of 660 colleges by Forbes. Them’s just the facts.
Again, your money. Just know what you’re paying for.

And there are over 4000 colleges in the United States. A large percentage of Liberty students transfer on to better institutions before graduating. Cherry-picking statistics doesn’t strengthen your argument.

I don’t agree with the sociopolitical stance of Liberty University and it is one of the reasons that I am transferring to a better institution. That doesn’t change the fact that they are providing a rigorous education and that they have become a doctoral university. Liberty only has continued to improve since it was founded in the 70’s. More power to them.

The “4000” colleges you cite were not ranked. 660 were. Of those 660, Liberty came in 651st. Its law school grads have ranked as the 6th least-employable in the nation, with an employment rate under 25% (compared to an industry average of 59.3%), with one of the worst bar-passage rates in the nation. Its medical school is ranked a wretched 825th, possibly due to its insistence on requiring coursework in ‘young earth’ creationism - a pseudoscience which contradicts biology, virology, bacteriology and immunology among other disciplines - of all students. This poor performance is carried over into the ‘university’ at large: its ‘graduates’ earn in the bottom 10% of college grads surveyed.

This is not “cherry picking” data. It is a fact-based assessment of a school, presented in order to help someone understand the potential consequences of pursuing a degree from this institution.

Is there another college you can transfer to?

No, not really.

You cite their medical school, yet they haven’t even graduated their first class yet.The law school stats you posted are from a blog post that doesn’t match the legally required, and reviewed, ABA disclosures.

https://www.liberty.edu/media/1191/Standard-509-Information-Report.pdf

Is this somehow supposed to inspire confidence? Because, um, it doesn’t.

I had no idea they have a medical school. If what @ProfessoD says about the medical school curriculum is accurate, I’m kind of shocked this is even accredited. Or is it? I’ll have to start reading doctors’ diplomas.

It is not just the medical school. Every single student of Liberty ‘university’ is required to take coursework in Young Earth Creationism:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/03/02/how-liberty-university-creates-creationists.html

The curriculum is under the direction David Dewitt, a discredited loon who misrepresents basic adaptational biology because he doesn’t comprehend it:
http://americanloons.blogspot.com/2013/07/619-david-dewitt.html?m=1

This is not a good school. Every student deserves better.

It never ceases to amaze me how people get hung up on one particular class taught at Liberty and determine that the entire educational experience can be discredited based upon an opposing view being discussed. That’s treading dangerously close to treating individuals as heretics for their freedom of thought.

As for Dr. Dewitt, whom I’ve never had the pleasure of dealing with, somebody needs to inform the NIH and all the other places that have granted him research money that he is a “discredited loon.” They might as well take away his doctorate while they are at it. After that let’s put him in the stocks and flog him in the public square. Perhaps after that he will learn to not speak heresies. :wink:

(I think calling it “one particular class” is potentially misleading. After all, it’s a requirement for every student, a fact that suggests it’s of central importance to the school’s aims.)

I’ve taken some of the more advance theology courses at Liberty and young earth creationism, old universe with an allegorical representation of creation, and creation with the appearance and structure and age by a being beyond the dimension of space-time in which we exist (a purely philosophical interpretation) are all discussed and represented objecively.

No more about creationism vs. evolution. That isn’t what this thread is about. What Liberty teaches has been established, there is nothing more to add there.

Is this school accredited by any agency?