London Olympics 2012 - SPOILER ALERT

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<p>Exactly!!!</p>

<p>If WOGA hadn’t turned Gabby down, they maybe would have had three AAs in a row.</p>

<p>The tied score was 59.566. Really, if they score the same to the thousandth of a point, why can’t there just be a tie?</p>

<p>This is going to sound kind of crass, but I’m glad Raisman lost the tie break since she was overscored in the competition.</p>

<p>That is so harsh. There are some sports (judo, I think) that give both semi-finalists who lose their match a bronze w/o further competition.</p>

<p>Kudos to Gabby. Hope she can afford the taxes she’ll owe.</p>

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But what about the judges? How could they go along with that?</p>

<p>@SS - she was overscored? Yeah that was crass. You’re entitled to your opinion, regardless of how wrong it is. :)</p>

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<p>It’s because gymnastics has had a problem of gymnasts performing difficult skills with clunky movement and sloppy execution, and essentially being rewarded for it. Execution rightfully deserves highest precedence in a tie-break situation.</p>

<p>Maybe this is pollyannaish, but I never feel too bad when somebody who already has a medal (especially a gold one) doesn’t get another one. I didn’t feel to bad when Phelps got silver, because DeClos was so happy to get the gold. I’d rather see more people get medals than see a few people get so many.</p>

<p>SS - We’ll agree to disagree on this one. You are certainly allowed to have your opinion, and I’m sure there are others that share it. I don’t. I think there should either be a tie or if it is to be broken it should be by cumulative pt difficulty. That should be rewarded. But, they all knew the rules going in so it stands…</p>

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<p>Here we go. Raisman had a much sloppier vault than Douglas, yet still received anear identical execution score. Her bars execution score is also pretty suspect.</p>

<p>Now that I know how the tie break went (take the top 3 scores to determine who prevails), that seems like a pretty poor protocol.</p>

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<p>We probably let our emotions direct the perceived scoring. Fwiw, after the scores for the vault came up, my reaction was … here we go again. Did you think the Russians were underscored? Was the bronze medalist underscored on the uneven bars?</p>

<p>Regardless of our opinions on the objectivity of the judges, it seems that athletes who emerge from all the trials to the AA finals AND score the same exact number of points to the hundreth of a point should be given that medal. Why should there be a winner and a loser at that level? A shared medal is just as nice as a solo one.</p>

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<p>Both Komova and Mustafina’s scores were pretty appropriate. So were Douglas’s, fwiw.</p>

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<p>Really? Were the smallish differences in scores between Komova’s vault and the American’s justified? Komova’s earned a 15.466 that was only .5 less than Douglas … despite a major error.</p>

<p>But setting all of that aside, one ought to feel for a girl who loses on a tie-breaker. I would have felt bad for the Russian if the result had gone the other way.</p>

<p>"Kudos to Gabby. Hope she can afford the taxes she’ll owe. "</p>

<p>Can you explain? Do you mean for endorsements, or do medalists get money for winning medals?</p>

<p>Medalists get money and they have to pay taxes on it.</p>

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<p>It was. A .5 difference is pretty big. Komova had good form in the air. The steps on the landing probably got -.3 and she got a -.1 out-of-bounds penalty. Overall vault was pretty generous, but relative to other competitors her score was appropriate.</p>

<p>I just read this on twitter:</p>

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<p>When D was competing, at some meets they’d break the tie and at some meets they’d share the place. When they shared, they almost always said “tied for third and receiving 5th.” (They’d break the tie in favor of the person with the highest AA score.) But I’ll always remember at D’s very last meet, at state, she only did really well in one event - tied for 3rd - but they just announced 5th, without saying it was a tie. (D likely doesn’t remember that AT ALL but Mom does!)</p>

<p>So it’s better to bomb one event then do consistently well on all, end total scores being equal.</p>

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<p>As in A and B tied for third and receiving 5th is C?</p>

<p>In swimming they changed to only timing to the 0.01 second, as it seemed crazy to take it to 0.001. Swimmers often tie and seem OK about it. Would you want them to use split times to break ties…say you should see who had the absolute fastest 50 or drop the slowest 50 and recalculate the time. It seems a bit silly to have a tie break when you are already taking scores out to 0.001. </p>

<p>Happy to be a swimming parent and not gymnastics, however don’t get me going on college equestrian. With 5-8 riders in the ring, you are at the mercy of being at your best when the judge is looking at you.</p>