London terror...

<p>I’m watching with tears in my eyes. This reinforces the fact that the real enemy is Al Qaeda. Why are our forces not concentrating on routing bin Laden and Al Qaeda leaders from Afghanistan? Why did we divert everything into Iraq?</p>

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<p>At least 33 people have been killed
Blair back in London from G8
45 people have been seriously injured
300 people with other injuries
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<p>This is terrible. :frowning: Ehhhh, I’m hailing cabs for the rest of this week.</p>

<p>Well, not everything has been diverted from Afghanistan…witness the U. S. Navy Seals missing in Afghanistan while on secret mission and the 16 Special Forces members killed in the copter crash while trying to rescue them. Some of our most highly trained and elite forces are handling missions in Afghanistan.</p>

<p>But poor London… it is my favorite city outside the U.S. I pray for all Londoners today.</p>

<p>we are doing both! what on EARTH are you talking about? it’s a disgrace that people just go along with what the media reports and completely ignore the fact that US and coalition troops are working, fighting, and dying everyday to hunt down terrorists in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and secure freedom for the Afghan people. Sometimes, progress isn’t as exciting for the media to report. </p>

<p>Maybe the media IS part of the problem. Notice when most networks “left” Afghanistan, more progress was made and there has been less violence (though there as been some escalation in the past couple of weeks.) It takes only a few people to blow themselves up, create headlines, and instill fear and uncertainty in people as long as they can do it in front of cameras. That’s the point! </p>

<p>who do you think all the “insurgents” in Iraq are associated with? </p>

<p>Al Quaeda! </p>

<p>We fight them there so we don’t have to fight them here…and unfortunately we can’t really prevent what they do everywhere else either. </p>

<p>If Iraq isn’t importnat then why do the terrorists care so much about not seeing the USA succeed there? In addition to the London attacks, let’s not forget that Al Quaeda also claimed responsibility today for the killing of Egypt’s top envoy to Iraq–proving that they don’t want any ARAB cooperation in terms of the development of Iraq.</p>

<p>If our country cared so bloody much about progress we would be in Africa. If our country cared so much about preventing the most dire of nuclear and rogue nations we would be in North Korea.</p>

<p>We are not in the Mid East to bring peace there or to propagate democracy. That was not the original intention for going and somehow the propaganda skewed our vision of it.</p>

<p>My son (age 14) and his soccer team are supposed to go to the UK to play in an international soccer festival/tournament at the end of the month, in Manchester. I’m wondering if it will be cancelled, and, if not cancelled, if it will be safe or if I will feel it to be safe. My oldest son (now 20) went with his team several years ago and had such a wonderful time. Part of me wants to hold on to my “baby” and not let him go even if the tournament still goes forward; part of me does not want to hand the terrorists even that small a victory.</p>

<p>Pixiedancer said, " it’s a disgrace that people just go along with what the media reports "</p>

<p>It’s a shame when people go along with their party line and don’t think independently. The insurgents in Iraq did not start out as Al Qaeda.</p>

<p>I understand your concern boysx but I doubt anything will be canceled- londoners while naturally concerned and upset have been through bombings many times before ( IRA) and although they are likely to be put out that the mobile phones aren’t working, they are going to go on with business as usual.</p>

<p>My daughters previous school has trips to Washington Dc/NYC every other year for middle school. After 9/11 there was talk about canceling the trip but they voted against it. Everyone who went was very glad they did.</p>

<p>Send your son - security couldn’t be any stronger than now. And remember, what happened in England is terrible, but Al Qaeda also struck in Iraq and killed the Eqyptian envoy and many others. Terrorists know no borders, or countries. All they want is to continue to strike fear into everyone including the Middle East, so the progressives will fall back in line with them. My D and I love England, and we will be at the Olympics. Long live England and its people!</p>

<p>do u guys think the england attack was due to their victory with hosting the 2012 olympics?</p>

<p>Sirwatson1 so what are you saying? you’d be in SUPPORT of taking military action against North Korea?-- and which problems in Africa are you talking about, there are many countries and many issues. The USA has done well in making progress in solving some, but haven’t so much on others. And, what about the United Nations? Shouldn’t they DO stuff? I mean seirously what is their purpose? Instead of taking immediate actiong to bring peacekeeping forces to Sudan, it took them, oh a YEAR to declare what is happening in Sudan a “genocide.” </p>

<p>Libya (a country in Africa) dismantled its nuclear weapons program and allowed for full inspections after the US took action in Iraq. Maybe the country got the message of what can happen if they don’t?</p>

<p>The forces that are present in the Middle East: Al Quaeda etc…are the EXACT same or at least CONNECTED to the terrorists that have attacked Kenya, Nigeria, and Tanzania. So by weakening them in the Middle East, at their SOURCE, we are weakening their worldwide influence as well, including their influence in Africa.</p>

<p>The_who, i bet it’s a combination of the Olympics thing and the fact that the G8 Summit is being held in Scotland, so the world’s focus is on the UK anyway.</p>

<p>Pixiedanzer: Don’t waste your breath here. If we weren’t in Iraq doing the right thing, these people would be focused on finding some other way to attack Bush. They would be spending more time attacking Bush on Guantanomo Bay. There’s a group in my town here in NJ that opposed and continues to oppose our efforts in Afghanistan. Next we’ll hear that it was OUR fault that terrorists attacked in London. What none of them realize is that we are at war - sad but true - and that we have thousands of Islamofascist zealots who want to either kill us or subjugate us. And this war has been going on since Hezbollah bombed the Marine barracks in Lebanon. Reagan, unfortunately, and Clinton did nothing. Iraq hasn’t created new ones - only showed us the extent of the problem. This will be a long slog for all of us.<br>
And these are the same people who are violently opposed to a draft - BUT they also don’t want military recruiters to speak to their children (I guess their kids can’t think for themselves) and they are opposed to ROTC programs at their alma maters. These are the Dick Durbin’s of the world - blame America first, compare our actions with those of the Nazis, or Pol Pot, or the Soviet Gulag.</p>

<p>I was caught up in the attacks this morning, in between Liverpool St station and Aldgate Station.</p>

<p>I’m in a hotel now, unable to get home because the underground is still suspended.</p>

<p>From what I can remember of what happend their was a flash of light followed by a big explosion, most people on my carriage were thrown around. Stright away the carriage was filled with thick smoke, everyone was desperately trying to close the windows, the smoke cleared fairly quickly with 30 seconds.</p>

<p>Then people started to smash the windows so we could get out, at this point we were met underground, by London Underground staff who guided us towards the nearest platform which was Aldgate. this probably took around 30 minutes. emergency services were very quick to the scene and were quick to evacute the walking wounded.</p>

<p>On my carriage there wasn’t panic, people were trying to help everyone off, carrying people out if neccessary, it was all very calm.</p>

<p>The terrorists haven’t succeeded in their purpose, tomorrow if the tube is back open. London will carry on as normal and Londoners will be detirmined to get back to using the tube.</p>

<p>very interesting natoar23. thanks for posting that.</p>

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<p>Bravo! </p>

<p>We are all with you and all Londoners, today.</p>

<p>In my OP, I have placed the blame on Al Qaeda, but we do not yet know who is responsible. If not Al Qaeda, whoever did it demonstrates that their values are the same as Al Qaeda.</p>

<p>Natoar:</p>

<p>Thanks for the report. I’m so glad you’re safe. When we lived in London, we used to ride the Tube every day. The first time we did, we were taken aback by the signs reminding riders to watch out for strange packages. Going to concerts, we had to submit to having our bags searched. I hope that security has been beefed up.
I see from your post that the Blitz spirit is still alive and well among Brits. Good of them!</p>

<p>We went on our first London trip three weeks ago. Used the tube extensively. What a great city. Our thoughts are with the British people.</p>