<p>BB: I hope it isn’t a violation of federal privacy laws to reward students for doing well. Since the awarded scores are a combination of results from differents tests it is a bit nebulous what students did how well on what. It in no way tells anyone who did not do well it just tells us about who did do well enough to meet this cutoff and I suppose if you look at the flip side who did not do well enough to meet the cutoff. But is that really so unlike naming students for National Merit recognition? As it turned out about 5% of the class received the top award and about 15% earned an award of some sort. These students don’t necessarily correspond with those in the top 5 or 15% of the class. Unless we assume that anyone not in this 15% did poorly we really don’t know all that much about those who weren’t awarded except that their combined score was not this magic number.</p>
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<p>Our district requires parental permission to release the names of NM students…but then California privacy laws are in some way more strict than the federal laws.</p>
<p>I don’t know Texas law but in our district parents sign a blanket waiver to allow students names to be used in the media. There is no separate permission given for NM publicity or other publicity related to student accomplishment be it athletic or academic.</p>
<p>lol this is my high school, great publicity, eh?</p>
<p>Yeah it’s my old school too - I didn’t read the rest of the thread because I have an exam this morning, but let me just say that this kind of stuff goes on nearly everywhere, and our DA just decided to start cracking down on Nassau. Don’t start judging Great Neck. There’s a wide variety of people there just like every other town in the country.</p>
<p>Here’s an article from today’s NYTimes about the cheating scandal. Headline: Exam Cheating on Long Island Hardly a Secret. <a href=“On Long Island, SAT Cheating Was Hardly a Secret - The New York Times”>On Long Island, SAT Cheating Was Hardly a Secret - The New York Times;
<p>This tells you a bit more about the Great Neck community. This is where Fitzgerald got the idea for the character, the Great Gatsby.</p>
<p>“In any case, according to people briefed on the investigation, those who confessed were suspended, forced to retake the SAT, forbidden from attending prom and required to do community service.”</p>
<p>You mean the school and the College Board ALLOWED them to retake the SAT? (I love the “forced to retake the SAT”). What kind of criminal enterprise are they running?</p>
<p>It’s exactly what I posted many pages ago, mini. There really is no penalty for cheating, so folks should not be “shocked” that cheating occurs and maybe rampant in some sectors. In California, I’d be surprised if the students could even be suspended, seeing how they broke no school district rules/regs. (They ‘cheated’ a completely private corporation.)</p>
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<p>In this case, I’m assuming that the students voluntarily reported or released their SAT scores to their high school, because they are under no obligation to do so. I don’t think the high schools would have had access to their scores otherwise.</p>
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<p>It is also interesting that the high schools had any authority to discipline the students for cheating on a test that was administered by a private company not affiliated with the school, and for which the high school has no right to even know about.</p>
<p>And the private corporation is quite happy to take their money again. No skin off their teeth. (Probably would allow the very same fake ID.)</p>
<p>And why should they care?</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.amazon.com/Making-Grades-Misadventures-Standardized-Industry/dp/098170915X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1322850487&sr=8-1[/url]”>http://www.amazon.com/Making-Grades-Misadventures-Standardized-Industry/dp/098170915X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1322850487&sr=8-1</a></p>
<p>^Exactly. They should care if the colleges start refusing to use the tests for admissions. Otherwise, they get their money.</p>
<p>^^what I said many pages/posts ago^^
But, do colleges really care enough about the cheating? My theory is that they will ignore it until they are shown how rampant it is , and even notice that they are accepting the wrong kids and rejecting some otherwise great kids… but this is expensive to track. and we have already shown that is is NO ONE"s responsibility or RIGHT to check up on all these scores…</p>
<p>The next q is what is CB says it is too expensive to monitor attendance and proctor properly?
Unfortunately, CB would probably choose to pass on a huge price increase to consumers/test-takers, as I do not expect colleges to offer to pay for all this…
…Even though the executives do make a small fortune (test-checkers do not) and could easily give some of that up!</p>
<p>It is a big mess. But no consequences always means that there will be cheaters, and perhaps a lot of them.</p>
<p>This is starting to remind me a bit of the music downloading mess, which was so difficult to patrol and enforce, but once consumers were offered a reasonable way to get music easily and cheaply, the problem was solved to a degree. Perhaps the solution is for CB to offer a high security “option” that can be paid by the test taker or the high school or the college, but is not required.</p>
<p>I think the illegal downloading of music is still a huge problem. Has it decreased?</p>
<p>That is a good question. I know it has for those who now purchase itunes music.</p>