<p>Anyone know of any schools with late admissions and auditions for Musical Theatre??? </p>
<p>We are in a bit of a panic with my stepdaughter who wasn’t accepted into the 3 she applied to (UofM, Boston and CCM). </p>
<p>She is looking for a place she can go and get a solid year of dance and acting…she has concentrated on voice up to this point. </p>
<p>Any help would be greatly appreciated!</p>
<p>Take a look at the University of South FL. Their application deadline is TODAY. They have non-audition theater and placement audition only dance programs. I know nothing about the theater program except what is online, but their dance program is really excellent. Good luck!</p>
<p>Hfstern - Don’t know if your D would consider a school in Texas but Sam Houston State University holds their final audition April 23. They are doing Rent that weekend so you could see a performance as well.
[SHSU</a> - Department of Drama](<a href=“Page Not Found: 404 | Sam Houston State University”>Page Not Found: 404 | Sam Houston State University)</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>I hope you don’t mind this input as it is not exactly an answer to the question you asked. I tend to think there is hardly any MT schools where you can apply at this late date for the fall. IF there are any, there would be so few that your stepdaughter, if accepted, would be going to a school by default and not a school that necessarily fit her. Sure, she could transfer after one year but the odds for MT transfer admissions are very low and much worse than for freshmen MT admissions, which are challenging enough odds. </p>
<p>In my view, under these circumstances, based at least on what you shared so far, is that your stepdaughter may be better served by taking a gap year and during that year, getting a bunch of acting and dance classes, as well as continuing with vocal training. She can fill in her gaps in her training and be more prepared for the next admissions round. Moreover, your stepdaughter needs a MUCH MUCH more appropriate and balanced college list. Three BFA programs are not enough in such a HIGHLY competitive process, let alone that those three programs she applied to (UMich, BOCO, and CCM) are tippy top ones that take around 5% of applicants in a very talented pool. You would be pressed to find more than a handful of kids who only applied to those three schools and landed acceptances. Not many. Your stepdaughter needs more schools and a more balanced list of odds, not to mention that I have no idea if she was in the ballpark for those schools or not. But even if she was, the chances were very slim. </p>
<p>I have a nephew who is pursuing another field in the arts. He also had too short of a list last year when he applied and his list was VERY chancy and not appropriate or balanced. He also did not get accepted anywhere. I had offered to help but he did it on his own. This year, he took a gap year and I helped him get an internship in his field (helped with the extensive application) and this time I helped him with his entire college selection and admissions process from start to finish. His college list of programs was more appropriate, longer, more balanced and so on. His approach to admissions and applications and samples and auditions was done entirely differently. This year, he got into almost all of his schools and programs. His gap year was full of growth and made for a stronger resume as well, and his approach to college selection and the admissions process was radically different and resulted in a huge success. He did not have to transfer. He will be a freshman this fall and a highly regarded program in his field. This is what is possible for your stepdaughter if she takes a gap year, trains, and applies again with a new list and a new approach to her admissions process. Just a suggestion.</p>
<p>The right college list is crucial to a successful outcome. Nobody should be shut out of colleges. With the appropriate college list for that applicant that has balanced odds on it, including safeties where they can study theater/MT, the student should have at least two acceptances in hand, and not zero.</p>
<p>Thanks! We will look into Southern FL and Sam Houston State.</p>
<p>Yes, she wants this to be a gap year at any school that offers Musical Theater and then take a different approach in her applications and auditions to transfer for her second year. We live in NYC and my husband and I are both professionals in the MT field so it was a blow to her not to get into any of the top MT colleges. </p>
<p>I never knew how tough emotionally this would be!</p>
<p>Please understand that if she attends a college this coming year, that will not be a gap year. She will then be a TRANSFER applicant, which is MUCH more difficult odds of admission that the already very low odds for FRESHMEN applicants. Your D would be positioned much better to take a TRUE GAP YEAR (not be enrolled as a college student) and reapply next year for FRESHMEN admissions. If she goes to any college this coming year, she will automatically be considered a TRANSFER applicant. I’m making this point in the sincerest way to help your child’s chances.</p>
<p>If you live in Manhattan, your D has a plethora of training opportunities for her gap year without being enrolled in a college. There are many acting classes and there are places like Broadway Dance. OR your D could do a year in the CAP21 Professional Certificate Program or a year in Circle in the Square Theater School (both are by audition) and NOT be considered a transfer applicant next year to colleges as those two programs are not colleges.</p>
<p>A gap year means to take a year off between HS and college. If she chooses to go this route she could continue to train (either in a non-academic conservatory program or by taking individual classes and working one-on-one with coaches), prepare for auditions, work at a job, and then apply to a musical theatre programs as an incoming freshman for the following year (2011/ 2012). </p>
<p>I believe this is what Soozie meant by a “gap year.”</p>
<p>oops – cross posted with Soozie.</p>
<p>DEFINITELY TAKE A GAP YEAR! I am a transfer applicant and although I have been lucky to have a few options under my belt, it is very very very difficult. Save the money you would spend being at a university and get with a coaching company like MTCA, they will whip you into shape and get you more than prepared for next term’s auditions.</p>
<p>Thank you for your comments and advice. </p>
<p>Yes, a true “gap” year where she took dance and acting classes would be great but having grown up in the city and in the shadow of her parents, she is really ready to get out of town. </p>
<p>She was accepted into the vocal program at Indiana University but doesn’t want to spend a year without any dance or acting…She had started out wanting to study Opera when she began the college application process, but it quickly changed to musical theatre.</p>
<p>Honestly, I think she would greatly benefit from going to a good, small MT program that would allow her individual attention and the chance to see what life is like for the majority of the population of the island of Manhattan. She might actually love it and not want to transfer. </p>
<p>It has been hard to convince her that there are loads of actors who didn’t go to the top colleges but are working all the time. </p>
<p>Are there any other non-audition programs whose admissions are still open?</p>
<p>Marymount Manhattan has one more audition on April 17th, you should call tomorrow and see if there is any way they will let her audition. It’s worth a shot!</p>
<p>Your D could go to Indiana’s Jacobs School of Music for the BM in Vocal Performance (a great opportunity) and find out how she can supplement that with acting and dance classes at IU. Another option is to just attend Indiana and give up the BM in VP at Jacobs and be a BA Theater student who takes voice and dance. Those are two reasonable and good options. </p>
<p>I would not look for a college at this late juncture and look to transfer the next year. I would do a gap year with training (need not be near home) and apply to an array of MT programs next year and not just the tippy top ones. She should hone her dance and acting skills and increase her MT repertoire if she has been concentrating more on classical rep.</p>
<p>Somewhere on CC there was a posting about schools where she can start MT in the January semester, meaning she could have a gap half year, if that’s enough to do the trick. I’m sorry I don’t remember where I saw that.
IU’s voice program is at the tippy top- nothing to sneeze at. And they do have dance classes for non majors there. There’s probably some way to get some acting in too if you make some calls. I understand the music department continues to put on a big musical every year, and the drama department allows music people to audition for some (not all, I think) of their shows. So there is cooperation between the departments. See the IU threads.
Voice performance at IU - wow. She ought to feel real good about that one! That’s quite a plum! I went to IU for grad school and as a person with a BM from a conservatory, I was able to take some grad classes at the music dep’t with internationally known directors. It’s a fab place for music.<br>
There are plenty of MT stars whose undergrad degree is voice performance - don’t have to tell you that. And even some who will say that degree might be more respected than an MT jack-of-all-trades degree. I have fights with myself about that on a daily basis! :)</p>
<p>OK, if she goes to IU for voice, takes dance class as a non major, acting on the side, auditions over at the drama dep’t for their MT shows that are open to music majors and still wants after a semester or two to transfer to an MT program, surely since she is coming from IU/Jacobs and not some tiny little no name school, she will have an advantage when it comes to transferring, which, we all know from MT CC, is very hard to do. Certainly she’d have an advantage if she decided to transfer within IU from Jacobs to the drama/MT dep’t. I don’t know how much of an advantage, but an edge, never the less. Soozievt will let us know if that’s not correct.
But she could stay at IU in voice, and spend her summers at some wonderful MT program for college students. I think Penn State has such a thing. Wow. School year at IU/voice and summer at Penn/MT. Wow, again. I’m usually not so rabid about these topics, but this is IU/music we’re talking about.</p>
<p>Can she call the dept head at IU and explain her dilemma? They clearly want her and they’re in a position to help. Just talking to someone like that, outside the family and who has respect for her talent, might really calm her down and help her make a decision on the next step. Great luck to her-- this is hard but it really is just one moment and there will be many great ones to come.</p>
<p>I know a girl who is in the BA Theater department at IU. She wanted the BFA MT major, but has been very happy with the BA. She has many performance opportunities, and is able to study dance and acting. Perhaps your daughter would consider the MT department rather than voice at IU – or maybe it would be possible to combine the voice major with some dance and acting classes. The facilities and opportunities at IU are excellent; it’s certainly worth checking to see what is available there.
Oops – sorry, I see soozieVT gave you the same advice – but it’s worth repeating!</p>
<p>We know a few students attending IU, taking the BA in theatre and someone in the MT program. They are all very happy with the opportunities and education at IU. My D auditioned for the BFA MT program & was waitlisted there. She has accepted a spot in another BFA MT program, but if she had not found a spot in a BFA MT program she was more than happy to attend IU in the BA theatre program. It truly is a wonderful school with so many educational options and opportunities & other posters are correct that your D could possibly transfer into the MT program. They told my D this when she was waitlisted. As far as dance, there are plenty of dance classes offered there. Maybe your D could do a double major in voice & theatre (lots of great acting classes in the BA theatre program too). I would talk to them & see what options you have. There are lots of people who would love to have the opportunity to study voice &/or theatre at IU. It’s a wonderful school.</p>
<p>I suggest you go to see West Side Story at IU this weekend (if tickets are still available). After seeing that show you won’t want to go anywhere else! I saw it last weekend and it was fantastic! [Home</a> : West Side Story : Opera & Ballet Theater 2009 - 2010 season : IU Jacobs School of Music](<a href=“Opera and Ballet Theater: Indiana University Bloomington”>Opera and Ballet Theater: Indiana University Bloomington)</p>
<p>Be sure and check out the bios. They used voice, MT, ballet, theatre, and other majors for this show.</p>
<p>ClassicalBK! Wow! Thank you for the idea of a summer MT program…I never actually thought of that! I think she has finally decided to stop looking, enroll in IU/Voice and make the most of it. She is very driven so I am sure she will find dance and acting to take outside of her major…we are just concerned she will overload her schedule and as we all know, the first year of college is really about so much more that classes.</p>
<p>She has also gotten in contact with a recent IU vocal graduate who was involved in MT as well…</p>
<p>Thank you for ALL the words of advice and wisdom…we are headed to IU in the fall!</p>
<p>How exciting! Best of Luck to her! I think she will love IU & Bloomington.</p>
<p>Seconding Onstage’s emotion…that IU student has far more performing opportunities than my kid does as a BFA at BoCo. She’s also in an elite choir and has the option of a theatre study program in the UK. IU wasn’t on our list of schools but had I know then what I do now, it would have been. GOOD LUCK.</p>