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<p>My parents are abusive when I was a child and I don’t have a close relationship with them. The rest of my family is okay, and they seem to finally be coming to the realization that my parents and I are never going to be close – but, with the exception of one person, they really don’t reach out to me to help.</p>

<p>As I turned to read this forum today, I realized that I am reading because I crave parental advice and perspective. I sometimes read the answers to questions that have nothing to do with my life, just to read what real parents have to say!</p>

<p>I need to find some parental figures in my life. I’m always afraid of imposing myself and pretty fearful of rejection (long and terrible story regarding parental abandonment of various kinds). I always seem to make some misstep with older people I approach, mostly because I have no clue how to act with parents. Being from an abusive background is like coming from an alien culture. </p>

<p>The way my friends act with their parents is not very applicable because they can take more risks that I can. They are more contradictory and argumentative, for example, than I would dare to be. They feel comfortable asking for things, and feel free to joke and tease. I also tend to get very sad when I think about not having parents to bond to, and that probably makes it harder to be around me.</p>

<p>I’m wondering how you parents would like to be approached. If you met a young person at your church or synagogue or as a student in one of your classes or a friend of your child’s, how would they best be able to build a mentoring relationship with you? Where would you send your child, if something happened to you and they had a strong need for parental love?</p>

<p>Hi returningstudent,</p>

<p>What a compelling post! I looked back through your recent posts and it looks like you have just finished undergrad so are a young adult. Are you taking time off from school now, so have a little time for pursuing interests not on a college campus? Give us a little more information about how you’re spending your time. This might help. Also, are you male or female, if that’s not sharing too much.</p>

<p>You sound like a sensitive, open person, which is most of the battle in forming friendships! So many kids your age spend energy trying to create space from their parents. Your frank interest in connecting with older mentors is refreshing!</p>

<p>Take care.</p>

<p>I think it might help to make friends first. For example at a church you might get involved on one of the committees. As you get to know people better friendships can deepen into more mentorlike relationships.</p>

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<p>Those are great places to meet people with whom you might be able to build the type of mentoring relationship you are seeking. I think most parents of teens/young adults would be very flattered to have their advice asked and listened to by a younger person. Lord knows our own kids are probably sick of listening to us! </p>

<p>I don’t have concrete advice on how to approach this but perhaps others on this forum do.</p>

<p>Good luck!</p>

<p>First, I am so sorry to learn that you were abused and abandoned by your parents and feel (understandably, given the abuse and abandonment) that you will never have a close relationship with them. :frowning: Hugs to you.</p>

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<p>Not sure what topics you are seeking advice or perspective on, but you certainly should feel free to post on this parents board anytime you wish to ask for those things, or to PM me or anyone else who volunteers. I for one would find this no imposition at all.</p>

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<p>I became friends, I guess one could call it, with a number of our son’s friends, mostly college students I met while on campus waiting for him to get out of classes (he started college at age 9, and I was on campus quite a bit till he was 11). One of them asked me to call her when I was around to see if she was around to meet for lunch, and I did that several times. She’s in law school now, but has kept in touch via email. Another I met on Semester at Sea; he was in our son’s clique and said he considered me his surrogate mother (perhaps due to his having no personal contact with his own mother for the 70 day trip) and he shared a taxi and hotel room with us (my son and I) on the night between our docking in Seattle and flying to our perspective home cities. He invites us (my husband and I, as our son has moved to another state) to hear him sing in a Renaissance choir he’s in (and the rest of the members are decades older than he) and we go out to dinner to celebrate birthdays and such (he’s treated us and we’ve treated him). We emailed a lot when he first moved away from his home state after graduating from college, but only touch base every now and again in more recent months (since he got accepted to Harvard Law School). Another guy was in our son’s calc II class seven years ago and he has come to a performance or two with us (like when our son first moved, we still had theater tickets for him as we had no idea he’d be moving out in June when we ordered the subscription). Our son recently asked, “Just how many surrogate sons are you going to have?” Anyway, I’m not sure how you can reach out to adults other than just being yourself and showing an interest in spending time with them.</p>

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<p>I haven’t really seen myself as a mentor to anyone that I can think of, but have seen myself as an extra adult for them to call upon if they need help.</p>

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<p>Most likely some cousins who seem pretty loving. Do you have any aunts or uncles who are nearby? After that, it would probably be his housemasters at his dorm. Then probably certain parents of friends of his.</p>

<p>Oh, the committee/interest groups idea is a good one. Our son met some nice adults in a book discussion group he was in back when he was 8 and two of them came to his master’s graduation party a couple of weeks ago.</p>

<p>Another idea would be bosses (or clients if you have your own business). Our son is still in touch with several people who were CEOs for companies that hired him (either as an intern before college or a consultant after college or both) - he heard from one of them just today (one he interned for summers between ages 9 and 12) and another one a week or so ago. So jobs in another good place to find mentors/parent figures.</p>

<p>Foster parents have self-identified as being interested in taking on parenting responsibilities for children not biologically related to them.</p>

<p>Of course, they are not necessarily looking for a “child” of your age, but on the other hand they’ve probably never considered the possibility either.</p>

<p>Possibly it would be worthwhile to speak to people at associations of foster parents. </p>

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<p>Imo, be careful to distinguish between parenting and mentoring. In many cases, parents have no special, professional, skill-based knowledge of what their older offspring are doing. I certainly don’t. However, normally-functioning parents are interested in all aspects of their child’s life, and they are usually available to listen, support, and love unconditionally. A mentor, on the other hand, is knowledgeable about your field of work or study, and may well be fond of you, but will not necessarily be available to listen, support and love unconditionally, particularly when it comes to your personal life.</p>

<p>I am a 50 y/o woman, and I regularly attend our church. There was a young woman there (age 25) with whom I hit it off when we chatted a couple of times at women’s activities. Well, she called me up one day and said she’d like to get to know me better and could she and her 2 y/o come over for a visit. I was flattered. So, she’s been coming to my house one afternoon per week for about 9 months.</p>

<p>That took a lot of guts for her to call me. Still, she knew that I came to the women’s activities at church so I must be interested in friendships. She knew we hit it off, too, so she just went for it. She didn’t intimidate me by making demands on my time. She asked if they could come over that one time and while here she told me that she had a strained relationship with her mom and really felt like she needed an older woman in her life. So, I invited her to come back, and we’ve become very close.</p>

<p>If you go to a church or synagogue, I would suggest checking into women’s/men’s (depending on your gender) ministries. The people involved in that are likely to be open to a new relationship with a young person.</p>

<p>I think many adults would be flattered and willing to mentor if asked. The only advice I would give is to know and respect people’s boundary. It is something kids usually learn from their parents. People with good social skills know how not to cross the line - it could be how often they call or visit, and how personal a conversation could be. </p>

<p>My youngest brother had a very difficult relationship with our parents growing up. Even now he still craves a lot of attention from people. When he likes someone, he would be on to them 24 7, which often would drive them away. I’ve had many mentors through out my career. One thing I always did was to take cue from them on how much time they want to invest in the relationship, so I do not become an imposition. </p>

<p>Many of us with children gone and have no one to pass on our great wisdom to any more would probably be happy to be a mentor to someone like you. I am helping a young lady from Vietnam to find a permanent job after college. </p>

<p>All the best to you.</p>

<p>How about a grandparent figure? Is there senior center near you? Perhaps they would like a volunteer to teach email skills, how to set up a spread sheet, lead a book group,etc. The senior center in my town is full of very active, barely retired types with lots of time for talking and going out for coffee.</p>

<p>Good point about boundaries, oldfort. The young lady who I have befriended is very intelligent and she pretty much gets that. However, when she’d come over at 3 and stay until 6:30 or 7, it was kinda long. I can’t really say, “I’m ready for you to go now”. It would have been good if when she first started coming over, she would have said, “Can we get together from 3-5?” or something like that.</p>

<p>So, OP, if you find someone you’d like to befriend, keep that in mind. Inviting someone to lunch is good, because everyone knows that will only be an hour or so. During lunch you could explore whether the person would be willing to get together on a regular basis…lunch every week or two, or something like that. Then, if the friendship grows, the older person will likely take the initiative in including you in other things.</p>

<p>What about your extended family? Do you have aunts, uncles, grandparents who aren’t stuck in a cycle of abuse like your parents? You mention that your family doesn’t seem to reach out to help–but how much do they know about what went on with you and your parents? And have you tried to ask for the help/support you need?</p>

<p>Sadly, problems within an immediate family are often treated as a dirty secret that even the extended family doesn’t know about. Or they might assume that since you’re an adult now, you’re doing OK. </p>

<p>Churches and community centers are good places to meet people of different generations, and so are volunteer groups. I would suggest looking for friendship and connection first, “parenting” later, when it’s clear that there’s a genuine bond between you and your mentor. </p>

<p>Good luck–it’s difficult to be a young adult without parents who really care for you. I’m sorry that yours have failed you this way.</p>

<p>Wow, thanks everyone for your compassionate replies! I really appreciate your thoughtfulness and help. :slight_smile: </p>

<p>Thanks also for the examples of people who are your surrogate kids. It’s great to know that it can happen. I recently asked my aunt for advice on finding mentors in my area and she said that no one would be interested in mentoring me and I should just try to make friends my own age. It hurt a bit, frankly – I do have friends my own age, but often we struggle with the same issues and I wind up helping them rather than them helping me!</p>

<p>Riverrunner – I am female, and am taking a year off between college and grad school. I’ll be traveling for part of the time and working for the other part.</p>

<p>LazyBum201 – Thank you for your kind offer. I may take you up on that next time I have a difficult decision and need some wise parental advice!</p>

<p>twomules – A senior center is a great idea. I have one living grandparent, and she’s great, but it would be nice to have more role models for a life well lived.</p>

<p>lunitari – Thanks so much. I really think you understand this. I’ll send you a PM.</p>

<p>I just had an insight about this today that I thought I’d add to the thread. Maybe you can give me your opinions on it?</p>

<p>I was thinking that perhaps becoming a nanny for a few months might be a good way to form a strong bond with a family. I have some time off in the next few months, I would love to be with kids, and I could try to find a really nice employer. A lot of ads for nannies say that they are looking for someone to “become part of the family”. Of course, I’d put in a full day’s work and so forth, but it sounds like it would be a fun and friendly environment.</p>

<p>Have any of you hired nannies and gotten close to them? Do you think this is possible?</p>

<p>No, don’t go there. I think your personal need for love, family and acceptance could create unintentional boundry problems. I think it would be better to stick with finding an older mentor as the other posters suggested.</p>

<p>If someone wants a summer nanny (or in this case a fall nanny), being a nanny “for a few months” might be an option. Althought I do agree with the poster above-- having your own needs for a surrogate family as one of the primary motivations is not a great set-up. Ripe for disappointment on your part if the relationship doesn’t fit your fantasy.</p>

<p>More importantly, most families don’t want a nanny “for a few months” (except in the aforementioned summer vacation scenario). They don’t want a revolving door of caretakers for their young children, they don’t want to have to go through the hiring process every few months. I speak as someone who had a nanny when DS was small. We loved her, too, and stayed in touch for quite a while. But even though she was our nanny for more than “a few months,” we’re no longer in touch. It’s possible to create that surrogate family in this way, but not likely.</p>

<p>Our church specifically has “discipleship groups” which are created exactly to provide folks with mentors. It is like a small group Bible Study with fun, social activities thrown in. All three of my children have been involved at one point or another. S1’s mentor was a lawyer who ended up writing one of his college recs and several job/internship recs for him. S2’s mentor took him to HS graduation activities while we were overseas. D’s mentor continues to email, call, and meet up when they are both in town. We have close, loving relationships with our children, yet we have still found it beneficial for them to have other adults active in their lives, and have been very grateful for their influence.</p>

<p>As far as practical advice, I recommend that you “target” another woman (make sure it’s a woman, not a man!) and invite her out for coffee at Starbucks or some such. It is a low commitment, time-limited chance to get to know her a little bit better without putting pressure on either of you. If you feel like you “click”, then ask her if you can meet regularly. (If it were me, weekly would be too often - I’d probably ask for every other.) If you don’t click, there hasn’t been any commitment that you have to get out of.</p>

<p>And by meeting at a neutral location, you haven’t put the other woman out at all by invading her space or making her clean and serve.</p>

<p>You may even find it beneficial to have more than one mentor. The person who gives great social advice might not be best for career advice or spiritual advice or…</p>

<p>OP - DW and I both suffered through some parental estrangement, and I’m very sympathetic to your plight. Who do you speak with when some important but delicate issue arises? This question will remain with you well into adulthood. Friends will likely fill the role fifteen or twenty years from now. Until then, you may find it appropriate to spread your questions across a variety of adults, rather than trying to find one or two surrogate parents. As O2B@C wisely observes, restricting yourself to one or two may result in boundary problems. Been there, and I can recommend against that. Good luck, have faith in yourself, and definitely keep trying.</p>

<p>Run to buy this book (which if you’re broke, you can get cheap used on Amazon): Recovery: A Guide for Adult Children of Alcoholics, by Herb Gravitz and Julie Bowen. This book gives valuable, hard to find, practical advice for people who come from dysfunctional families of all kinds – not just families with alcoholism. This includes the kind of information about developing friendships and learning to share information with others – the kind of info that people who grew up in dysfunctional families learned at their parents’ knees. This literally used to be my Bible because I grew up in a dysfunctional family that included abuse, and there were lots of ordinary things about normal family ways of doing things that I didn’t know.</p>

<p>As for how to get adult mentors:</p>

<p>Use office hours of professors whom you like. With your first visits by talking about class, and have some real questions, comments. Don’t just drop with absolutely nothing to say about class. </p>

<p>If a connection evolves, and they aren’t busy (e.g. this isn’t before or just after midterms or just before finals – when everyone including profs are crazy busy), you can open up about your life, perhaps talking about your career interests and asking advice. </p>

<p>You can get to know the prof even better by asking them how they chose their field, what they like about it, would they advise you to go into it.</p>

<p>Typically professors who enjoy mentoring also will ask you to share info about yourself. Where are you from? What are you considering doing as a career? What’s your family like? </p>

<p>Do not immediately drop into the prof’s life tales of abuse. However, if you’re not close to your family, it’s OK to say that. For instance, “My family refused to pay for my college, so I’m putting myself through school.” “My family has some major problems, so I don’t see them very much.” Gravitz and Bowen have a "share, check share method they suggest of figuring out how much to share with someone you’re getting to know. Basically, you start off sharing a little bit, then check the person’s reaction before sharing more. If, for instance, your father was on death row for killing your mom, you wouldn’t start out giving that info, but would start off saying something like, “I’m not close to my father.”</p>

<p>I also strongly suggest that you get involved in counseling or therapy. When one comes from an abusive family, one carries some deep wounds that therapy can help enormously with. Your college counseling center is the place to start.</p>

<p>Be appreciative to people who mentor you. For instance, for profs who do things like invite you over for holiday dinners or take extra time with you, nothing could make them happier than for you to send them hand written notes of appreciation. I still have notes that students have given me. If you’re invited to dinner or something, bring an inexpensive bunch of flowers or at least send a thank-you note.</p>

<p>Don’t ask a mentor for material things. There’s a chance that this is obvious to you, but I’ve had mentees who have asked me for things ranging from my frequent flyer miles (She wanted to go to Paris!) to cars that I was getting ready to get rid of. Even if a mentor has much more money than your family, they are not your Sugar Daddy or Sugar Mommy. The most precious thing that a mentor can give you is their time and attention, so appreciate that while also being respectful of the fact that they need to lead their own lives, too, and they have their own concerns. </p>

<p>Don’t do something like call them in panic at 1 a.m. just because you’re feeling bad about a relationship or are concerned about an exam. And, I actually have had mentees who have done things like this! I didn’t appreciate it.</p>

<p>If a mentor is someone for instance whom you’ve met at church, look for ways of doing kindnesses to them, too, so your relationship isn’t a one way street. If they have young children, offer to take the kids for a few hours so that your mentor can have a break. You don’t need to take their kids to some place expensive. Just taking them to your local city park could be fun for the kids.</p>

<p>Perhaps the mentor could use some help with yard work or something similar. </p>

<p>Let the mentor know that you appreciate their kindness to you, and would like to express your appreciation by doing something nice for them.</p>

<p>And do continue to post on the Parents Forums. There are very caring peoplr here.</p>

<p>Maybe you could ask your priest, rabbi, pastor about starting a mentoring group in your area. There are probably other young adults in the same situation as you are because abuse, either emotional or phsyical, is more prevelant than we think. You would meet adults to be mentors and possibly you would be able to help a younger person. Helping others really helps us. Good luck.</p>