Besides looking at California schools, she can also research the states that have reciprocity agreements with California. There seems to be a long list…unless it has changed recently.
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That is the case in most states. The colleges educating future teachers in a state know that state’s certification requirements and usually prepare the students to get certified in that state.
CA has the credential and certification processes. It’s a little different than many other states that just have certification by the state department of education.
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The fastest and most direct path is to go to school in California if you want to teach there. But…there is a process in place for those coming from OOS, so it is possible.
My colleagues sister completed her degree on the east coast and now teaches in California.
Going to school in California is easier…so if this student’s current school is not the right fit and she plans to teach in California, it makes sense to go to school there.
The only rub with attending a public college in CA…it will be pretty costly if you are not instate residents. OOS residents do not get need based aid and I’m not sure a transfer student would be eligible for any merit aid.
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CSUs (where most of the teacher credentialing programs are) are about $39-47k list price for non-California residents. UCs are significantly more expensive. But note that many of the CSUs are primarily commuter student campuses.
See Campus Costs of Attendance | CSU and add $11,880 ($396 * 30) for the additional non-resident tuition.
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Perhaps @aunt_bea can clarify the credential and certification process in CA also.
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Luckily we are in state. While California is preferred, it will be difficult because only 2 of the UCs accept Sophomore level transfers. The Cal States that are of interest are also Junior level. There are some private schools but most of them are tiny. It’s hard having such limited options.
@Gumbymom where are the high school teacher prep programs in CA publics…and which ones take sophomore transfers.
We are CA residents so going to school at UC or CSU would be an enormous savings over UVM! She does not want a commuter campus. That main problem with the CSUs is that the schools she is interested in only allow Junior transfers.
Is there a way for her to fix/improve her current situation? Seems easier to figure out some engagement strategies for where she is, given the cost/benefit analysis, no?
She’s going to have to make some tradeoffs no matter where she lands… perhaps she can figure out some fixes where she is? Maybe getting her advisor involved?
It’s often easier to make your academic program more intense/engaging than LESS! Her professors have probably helped other students with this in the past…
To make this more concrete, here are the colleges in CA that take Sophomore level transfers. I have taken out schools with strong religious affiliation. The UCs and CSUs not shown are Junior year only.
UC Santa Cruz
CSU Channel Islands
CSU Chico
CSU Dominguez Hills
CSU East Bay
CSU CSU Fresno
CSU Humboldt State University
CSU Sacramento
CSU San Bernardino
CSU San Francisco State University
CSU San Jose State University
CSU San Marcos
Chapman University
Occidental College
University of San Francisco
University of Redlands
Claremont McKenna College
Loyola Marymount University
Pepperdine University
Pitzer College
Santa Clara University
Scripps College
University of San Diego
Pomona College
University of Southern California
University of the Pacific
Whittier College
A few out of state schools of interest are:
CU Boulder
CU Denver
Oregon State University (already accepted)
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@TLZT Answered the lower division transfer question for the CSU’s. Some of the non-impacted CSU’s will accept Lower division (Sophomore level transfers) such as Monterey Bay, Stanislaus, East Bay, Bakersfield, Humboldt to name a few but these do not appear to be an option for OP choice wise.
What’s wrong with UCSC?
She really likes her current program and her advisors have been great. We are from CA and she goes to school in VT. One of the biggest issues that she couldn’t have known ahead of time is how much that the lack of sunshine is difficult and has contributed to some mental health complications. She doesn’t mind the cold or snow, which is what we were originally concerned about, it’s the never ending gray. Also, Burlington is a cute town but since it is so isolated, it costs $800-1000 every time you want to fly home, which means we’re pretty limited about when that can happen. So many students come from New England, and so that means during long weekends or shorter breaks, she either has to stay on campus with almost no one there (at $100/night cost), or we fly her home. To be fair, we were well aware of this before she made the decision to go there, so that was no surprise. We essentially considered it part of the cost of tuition. Also, flying from CA to Burlington is a 12 hour travel day from airport to airport, assuming you make your connections. That is more grueling than she expected.
Overall, this is a decision to transfer that is not necessarily about the academics, but about things she couldn’t have known until she got there.
Housing.
That is a major, major issue especially with upper level students.
Students tend to transfer out Santa Cruz because there just isn’t any housing and the residents there fight or block any new building on the part of UCSC housing.
SDSU was originally known as a “teachers college”. It has a phenomenal teacher education department! The problem is that OP is requesting sophomore level transfer admission.
Priority admission goes to California community college students, then instate publics, then privates.
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It’s a great school and about an hour from home, so nothing! They only accept Fall transfers and that deadline has long passed, so she would be applying for Junior year and not Sophomore. Since she knows she wants to transfer, waiting another year seems like a waste of time and money.
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I didn’t know that about priority going to privates last. Good to know.
SDSU does have a great program and if for whatever reason she decides to go to a Junior level transfer, I’m sure it will be on the list.
We have one kid in school in Worcester, MA and the other in Burlington. Both have severe housing shortages, for the same reasons. Colleges across the country have over enrolled and the towns can’t bear the burden. UCSC has had an overcrowding problem forever. My husband tells stories about that from the 80s when he was there.
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A common path for California students dissatisfied with the four year college they attended as frosh is to do soph year at a community college to transfer to a UC or CSU as a junior.
What subject does the student want to teach in high school or middle school?
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Middle or high school Math. I didn’t realize that’s what other students did. Thanks
For math, the California subject matter competency for teaching tends to approximate an undergraduate math major, although upper level electives would be focused on topics more relevant for high school math teachers (rather than pre-PhD students or those aiming for work in other math related areas). Obviously, one would add teacher credential course work to the math major.
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