<p>I’m looking for a college and mom2collegekids recommended I make a thread here.</p>
<p>Here is a link: <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/1433343-desperately-need-advice.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/1433343-desperately-need-advice.html</a> to my previous thread where I explain more of my problem. Should I attend, I’d probably stay for a year or so and then transfer to a better school.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>I think your best option is going to be a test optional type school. Your test scores are fine but typically those schools aren’t the best, not always but usually. Your GPA is really going to hurt you no matter where you apply as will your attendance issues. I’m curious why you need to go to college if you run a business making 7 figures already? What advantage will college give you? Take some business courses at a local community college or state school and call it good.</p>
<p>Arizona State . . . Go Devils!</p>
<p>If you were my kid, I’d say go to community college for a year, pull the As and Bs to show that you can, and then transfer in the spring. There are many schools that would be interested in you IF you can pull up your grades and demonstrate the commitment and maturity to following through. At this point, most schools would be justified in assuming that education isn’t your priority.</p>
<p>There are schools that will take you - they need to fill the class and your money is as good as anyone’s. But if you want a school full of intellectual peers, people who are serious about being there, who want to get something for their time and money, then you are going to have to show the grades.</p>
<p>I am going to give you both my professional and personal opinions</p>
<p>Professionally (as I have dealt with students in your situation)</p>
<p>with a 69 average, it is very likely that your application will be rejected. I totally agree with inparent, that you need to start at community college because you need some distance between you and high school. </p>
<p>Even if you should decide to attend a CUNY community college if you attend 1 year accumulate 24 credit with A’s and B’s you can transfer into one of the 4 year colleges. Your GPA will not even get you into a CUNY or SUNY 4 year school (it will not get you into some of the CUNY 2 year school, unless you are academically/economically disadvantaged, which you are neither).</p>
<p>Many of the 2 year CUNY/SUNY have automatic articulation agreements with 4 year schools should you do well. For example; you could possibly attend NYU steinhardt through the CCTOP program where you would have to be coming from a NYC (some LI community colleges). But I guess as a person who runs a business that generates 7-figures, that you are paying for your self.</p>
<p>If you decide to attend a 4 year school, what are your thoughts as to how your school handle the recommendation letters? How should they explain the fact that you were out 200 days (which is the equivalent to a school year, which I am surprised that you are graduating with the class) and you have your share of failed classes without raising some serious red flags (untreated depression)?.</p>
<p>[Community</a> College Transfer Opportunity Program - NYU Steinhardt](<a href=“NYU CCTOP”>NYU CCTOP)</p>
<p>As a parent, if you were my D+ GPA kid, I would not be paying full freight for you to go anywhere other than CUNY CC until you can prove that you can do better (keep in mind the D+ average in college will get you academically dismissed). 4 years is going to pass anyway. Don’t go to a 4 year college just to say that you are going to a 4 year college. You will start college with a clean slate; do the 2 years, build a better academic record that will give you more options for transfer.</p>
<p>The problem you have is that you have no story here- at least no good one. You might help a school a bit with their median SAT scores but you look like a tremendous drop out risk, and anything you bring to the table with scores you’d wipe out by messing up their freshmen retention and 6 year graduation rates. </p>
<p>If you haven’t ‘fixed’ a problem that lead to your poor academic performance they have every reason to think it will reoccur. There has to be something- you got a mentor, you went to heroin rehab, you joined Al-ateen. Maybe you went to a Steve Covey course. </p>
<p>Why did you leave Stuyvesant? Were you ever actually depressed? If so it didnt seem to effect your business. Why are you just starting this project now?</p>
<p>Sorry, but this situation just smells like academics are the last priority for you. And that is going to come through to a college. Your post even says you are doing this because “its time for seniors to apply to college”. It sounds like you just woke up to schooling because other people around you were doing it. </p>
<p>I think you should go a private for-fee college adviser. You really need some professional assistance in positioning yourself- you need a good story about why these problems are in your past. Then you should be looking at schools were you can interview, and use that as an opportunity to convince them that your problems are behind you and/or the college has just the program for you. Maybe they have a tutoring or ADHD program just perfectly suited for someone like you. Then make sure you hit the ‘Hispanic’ box on the application. You are Hispanic if you self identify as one. </p>
<p>The bigger issue is that there is no point in you going to college if you havent fixed what caused your academic issues. Even if you trick your way in somewhere, you will just end up in the soup again.</p>
<p>Ummm…7 figures? That is $1,000,000. Is that per year? Sorry…this story is just to far fetched for me to completely believe.</p>
<p>Take some business courses at a community college, improve your academic scores and THEN make a decision about a four year college</p>
<p>The GPA is going to hurt you badly. Look at a CC like Santa Barbara Community College or Pasadena…if you’ve got the bucks to do it, some of the California community colleges are an excellent path to the some great colleges. They are very different places than most community colleges. Just hit the websites and start reading. Your degree will be from the college you graduate. BUT no matter where you go you need to be onboard with the commitment, which clearly did not happen in high school so do it because it’s going to add value to your life not because everyone else is doing it.</p>
<p>Everso lives in Westchester NY so I don’t think applying to a California community college is a good option. I think that best case, if you do get accepted by a 4 year college you will suffer from Groucho Marx syndrome, ie I would not join a club that would have me as a member. </p>
<p>As a parent, I understand you don’t like the idea of community college but I think it would be your best option, including the best chance of transferring to a good 4 year college after 2 years. Also, as a parent, if you do get accepted to a 4 year college, I think it is important to not go too far away, at least that was a mistake we made.</p>
<p>and just to throw another name into the mix, nice small LAC, not highly selective, and not too far from Westchester, Fairleigh Dickinson in Madison NJ.</p>
<p>On the other thread, the OP said he’d be happy on either coast. I should have referenced that.</p>
<p>A student who intends to transfer “up” anyway will probably find that a community college or equivalent (CUNYs?) is the cheapest and most streamlined way to do it, since the four year state universities typically have pre-made course articulation agreements with same-state community colleges or equivalent. No point in going to a more expensive four year school to take lower division courses available at lower cost elsewhere, or where the course articulation to transfer target schools is less assured.</p>
<p>California community colleges do have higher non-resident tuition than the very low resident tuition.</p>
<p>I don’t think you get credit for “depression” unless you’ve take steps to be diagnosed and get it addressed. Now, if you want to make a case that you addressed it naturally, it would need to show in your grades and attendance – has senior year been significantly better?</p>
<p>As far as schools that might take you.</p>
<p>Carleton University in Ottawa, ON (Canada) </p>
<p>Boise State has an admission calculator on their website that puts you right in the middle of “possible admit”. (Note, there are probably plenty of other state schools like this. I happen to know of Boise State because a student of mine wants to attend there so we were researching)</p>
<p>Small LACs that focus on struggling kids such as Dean, Curry and Colby-Sawyer all in MA, and could probably appreciate a significant donor.</p>
<p>Richard Bland, the junior college connected with William and Mary – residential program, and a clear feeder pattern so it will feel different from a community college.</p>
<p>Good luck finding something!</p>
<p>Small LACs that focus on struggling kids such as Dean, Curry and Colby-Sawyer all in MA, and could probably appreciate a significant donor.</p>
<p>I think this is what the OP is looking for…a list of 4 years that want full-payers and will overlook the grade issue…or may accept him but put him on academic probation until first semester grades are in.</p>
<p>I think there may be several small private schools in the PA, Ohio, NY, etc area that will take a chance on a full pay student like this. I just don’t know their names. I’m thinking some of the smaller Catholics…can someone here name some? </p>
<p>Maybe Xavier? Canisius? LeMoyne? St. Joe’s (philly), U Scranton… anyone know others??? </p>
<p>I would make appts at some of the above and talk to them.</p>
<p>I guess I’d like to hear why the OP thinks going to a low selectivity four year college that might accept someone with this gradepoint is the smarter option than attending a CC somewhere that the OP wants to live and transferring to finish the degree if the OP feels the “depression” issue and/or focus issue is under control. I’m guessing the OP has the capacity to do well in school if the other issues are addressed.</p>
<p>If you’re male, I’d suggest Wabash College in Indiana. You’ve got a compelling story, and I think several of the Tier 1.5 and Tier 2 Midwest LACs would be interested in you despite the extremely low GPA. Don’t disclose you’re planning on transfering.</p>
<p>^Niagara University, also could try Buffalo State College.</p>
<p>Okay…I’m not sure these will work but…</p>
<p>Look into Mercy College and Pace.</p>
<p>Do you mind a Catholic college? I think one of your best bets would be to make appointments with the admissions offices of schools like Manhattan College, Iona , Mount St. Vincent and Marymount Manhattan. </p>
<p>I think in general private schools are more flexible about minimum stats than public Us are.</p>
<p>As a reach school–I think it’s unlikely but worth a shot–try NYU’s Gallatin. </p>
<p>Another possible is Boston U’s School of General Studies. It too is a reach, but worth a shot.</p>
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<p>I am all for the kid being a stainless steel rat an subverting the system. In fact I’d bet an independent (accredited please) college counselor could get him all sorts of places. </p>
<p>The list of colleges isnt as much of problem as fixing whatever has been going on with him. Everything says he isnt ready for college- even waiting until December 20th to start worrying about this issue. </p>
<p>He has got to get in front of whatever problem is going on. And that may dictate the choice of college and location. I’d be looking at one of these places with a First Year Experience where they really mentor you and keep an eye over your shoulder.</p>
<p>Stole ClassicRockerDad’s post on another thread. That student has a 2.5 GPA, but a much lower Math + CR SAT…</p>
<p>Quinnipiac - match
TCNJ - insufficient data
Rutgers NB - irrelevant data (OOS for us)
Seton Hall (honors program) - insufficient data in your range, but nobody got rejected
(Sent)Arcadia - insufficient data
Wagner - safety
Babson - not even close, fogetaboutit.
Syracuse - reach but some got in
American - reach, very little data near your stats, and the data that’s there are all rejections
Maryland Baltimore County - insufficient data
Fordham - lots of data, nobody got in with stats near you
(Sent)Hofstra - nobody who applied had a GPA that low, but everybody got in, including people with lower SAT and GPA in the 2.8 range. I’d say match.
(Sent)St.Johns - several people got in with worse GPA, many with worse SATs. Nobody got rejected
Marist - match</p>
<p>Some suggestions (I’ll give you places with lots of data, but remember we’re in New England)
Bryant University - match
Drexel - minimal data, but everyone got in, even with lower SAT and same GPA
Fairleigh Dickinson - minimal data, but everyone got in, and everyone was in your range
University of Hartford - EVERYONE gets in - I should tell the guy on the other post.
Johnson and Wales - Everyone gets in with 2.0+
UMASS-Amherst - you’re on the hairy edge of definite in and definite reject. They want full pay OOS, so you may have a shot. Not surprisingly the most applied to school in the database.
UMASS-Boston - Safety.
Merrimack College - match
Pace - seems like everyone gets in
University of Rhode Island - match
Sacred Heart - safety
Suffolk University -safety
Wheaton College (MA) - match</p>
<p>I copied it because it might suggest some schools that are accepting a bunch of kids with lesser stats…the following look like possibilities.</p>
<p>Pace
Sacred Heart
UHartford
Drexel
Fairleigh Dickinson
Seton Hall
St. John’s</p>
<p>*The list of colleges isnt as much of problem as fixing whatever has been going on with him. Everything says he isnt ready for college- even waiting until December 20th to start worrying about this issue. *</p>
<p>He may have already turned things around. He says that his senior year grades are in the 90’s+. So, if he continues, then his college years could be fine. However, I agree that if this year is just a blip and he’ll soon return to getting sub-standard grades, then that will be a problem. </p>
<p>Maybe he’s one of these kids who just didn’t mesh well with high school drama???</p>