<p>Just curious about this. What will these stats look like;</p>
<p>wtd gpa: 3.3 tough high school and sat’s of 2150 (800 M, 600 V, 750 W). sat’s. this person is looking at schools like Colgate, Brown, BC - </p>
<p>the sat’s match, but the GPA does not.</p>
<p>One can never know for sure, but the one thing to keep in mind is that the GPA represents data collected across 3 years (when the apps go in) on a wide range of subjects. The SAT score represents data collected across a few hours on a very narrow range of subjects.</p>
<p>600V? Seems rather low in the context of the other scores. Is this indicative of an LD or a lack of interest? Does lopsidedness play into the GPA?</p>
<p>Unless the person is a recent immigrant, and not a native English speaker, 600V is very low for schools like Colgate, Brown, BC… So is 3.3 GPA, unless the HS is so “tough” that 3.3 still puts you in top 10%…</p>
<p>definitely retake those sats with the firm intent on bringing up your verbal. is that gpa weighted? are you taking all ap/ib courses? </p>
<p>i’d say you need to work hard next semester and show a large improvement in your grades… showing improvement is a large possitive… and paired with strong sat scores (should you at least manage a 650-700 to superscore above a 2200) i would say you would be in decent shape (provided your ec’s and essays are strong as well)</p>
<p>Assuming that the person is not a URM or an athlete, the gpa is way too low for Brown or Colgate and almost certainly for BC as well.</p>
<p>Many LACs/unis are still taking a “wait and see” attitude towards the writing score. Considering just the M and CR scores (1400/1600) aren’t quite so out of sync w/ the 3.3 gpa. </p>
<p>As others have posted, these numbers are too low for Brown, Colgate and probably BU - - unless the student has a “hook” (legacy, athlete, urm). If the student is from some under-represented state (VT, IO ND,SD, etc.) s/he may get a bit of a geog bounce.</p>
<p>That 800M is impressive. Congrats to your S. But it’s also a “double-edged” sword in the sense that it highlights weaknesses in the academic record. Ignoring the SAT Writing score (which I’m sure many colleges will), the low GPA and low SAT will be prominent features. I can visualize some AdCom saying “Well, take 150 points out of the SAT Math and you have a 650M 600V kid with a 3.3 weighted GPA.” I’m not saying the student won’t be accepted at Colgate or BC, but to have a decent shot the rest of the application will need to be very strong.</p>
<p>OP (and others), you many be interested in the “gpa/SAT disconnect” thread from a few days ago.</p>
<p>To a certain extent, it is going to depend on what the 3.3 represents. Is it mostly B’s in a curriculum of mainly AP/Honors courses? Or mostly B’s in a curriculum lacking much challenge? Or, worst of all, a mix of C’s in AP/Honors courses that, weighted, scrape up above a 3.0.</p>
<p>The colleges will also be looking carefully at how his curriculum matches what is available at his school, and where a 3.3 GPA falls in the scheme of his classmates. Teacher recommendations will be very important to help colleges understand why someone with such obvious potential (based on test scores) has obviously not lived up to that potential (based on grades). Saying that he attends a tough high school won’t cut it. There are lots of kids who attend tough high schools, including your son’s, who manage to have much higher GPAs.</p>
<p>The good news is that the student can still finish this semester with an upwards trend, and then do the same the first semester of senior year. I would be careful about applying Early anywhere – I would also carefully consider whether the student is a late bloomer who will get his act together and start living up to potential in college, or might continue to kind of skate by in college. The answer is important because you want to make sure he will be successful in college.</p>
<p>Some colleges may well take a chance on a late blooming male if there is obvious talent and recommendations are strong. I know a young man with almost identical test scores and a bit lower GPA who worked his butt off int he first semester of senior year and was admitted to BU, where he is doing well. But, my main advice would be to build in a very strong safety net of safer bet schools and carefully consider where he might fare best in the long run.</p>
<p>I agree, Carolyn. My son’s close friend was accepted to Colgate, Holy Cross, Hamilton, and the sort this year with similar grades, upward pattern. His GC told him that he had a good chance with the LACs, particularly those that were female heavy. He made out like a bandit on merit money too. Brown, ummm, I don’t think so. It’ll be a very, very high reach.</p>