<p>Remember where Weiner learned how to do this, on the Sopranos. This is that show–except the guns and knives are figurative.</p>
<p>And, re Joan, her situation brings to mind Sal Romano whose firing is the outcome of his rejecting the advances of the Lucky Strike guy. Had he not been fired, they would have lost that account, and nobody knew the real reason-- although they lost that account a year later anyway.</p>
<p>UVU0609 - link to vulture review very interesting! Thanks.</p>
<p>A guy at The A.V. Club did a good comparison between Sunday’s episode and an episode of The Sopranos (Weiner’s old stomping ground). Check it out if you get a chance - [?The</a> Other Woman? | Mad Men | TV Club | TV | The A.V. Club](<a href=“http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-other-woman,75352/]?The”>Mad Men: “The Other Woman”)</p>
<p>Two episodes left of Mad Men and everyone is freaking out about Peggy being gone. Two episodes people. She is going to pop up in the next episode to see her progress at her new agency and hopefully competing against Don eventually. I just want Don to keep his promise to chase after her. Mad Men isn’t Mad Men without Peggy and Don’s non-romantic work relationship.</p>
<p>I don’t see Peggy ever competing against Don, at least not at CGC. Teddy Chaough doesn’t give a crap about Peggy personally, all he wants to do is take a swipe at Don by stealing his star protege. She’ll be as much of a token there as Dawn is at SCDP, IMHO.</p>
<p>M,m,m,m,m,m,m, the 60s were a time of change, and certainly Madison avenue had to start marketing to the new generation. I see Peggy’s skills spearheading those campaigns. I hope so.</p>
<p>Carnac the Magnificent(homage to JC reference in the last episode) prediction:
Don symbolic falling in intro will be realized as his undoing emotionally as the result of the women who really knew him leaving him in one way or the other…
Anna-RIP from cancer
Betty-Divorce
Peggy- Left the agency
Megan-Probable upcoming separation for OOT acting gig or driven away by his disdain for her acting</p>
<p>I don’t really believe there is any “better” place to work in such a competitive business. The grass will not be much greener but you CAN bank the extra pay. And in work in the end that is all there is. The day you leave you are replaced and soon forgotten. Peggy saw that as she left. You leave with a box and some memories and maybe a good contact or two.</p>
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Slightly OT but I’m getting ready to jump ship myself (prospective start date June 15 after a few more kinks have been worked out) and that’s pretty much why I’m doing so. You put it very succinctly - thanks, Barrons!</p>
<p>My theory is that in the next 2 episodes Don himself will leave the agency. He’ll need to regroup emotionally and career-wise after totally losing control: control of his wife, his partners at work, his staff and – his creative mojo. </p>
<p>In this season he hasn’t done any good creative, the two big accounts were thought up by his wife and Ginsberg. Don might use the excuse that he doesn’t like what the firm did to Joan, but the real reason to leave is that his own sense of self-worth is in a major need of an overhaul. Don may not be able to corral Megan, but he can do something about being outshined by Ginsberg and disregarded by the partners. (It’s doubtful the old Don’s objections to prostituting Joan would have gone unheard by the partners in the earlier seasons.) To ensure success, Don will lure Joan (who already thinks he’s “a good one”) and Peggy (with the promise of a partnership) and go head to head against his former co-workers.</p>
<p>Well, Don was outnumbered when the firm dropped Mohawk Airlines in the hopes of taking on American Airlines in past season. He was strongly against it, especially because AA had just had a crash, with Pete’s father on board, no less. He had made promises to Mohawk. (Watched Sunday morning re-run on AMC)</p>
<p>I really think advertising is mostly a young person’s game as far as creative goes. It is now his job to find and nurture the creative types while having the needed polish to make the pitch and run things overall. Nothing wrong with that. Same reason most songwriters peter out after a period of being great for awhile. Even great ones.</p>
<p>I think he’s still got it, fwiw.</p>
<p>latichevet, I thought of Sal Romano too. He said no, and look what happened to him. Joan weighed her options and made the best decision she thought she could live with.</p>
<p>When Peggy was looking straight ahead before she stepped in the elevator I was afraid for a second she would step into an empty shaft. So true Barrons, life goes on instantly after someone leaves. Maybe not for Don though. He seemed really angry that Peggy finally had had enough,</p>
<p>And sorry yes I’m still most disgusted with Pete. Kenny dismissed the idea out of hand but Pete was all over it. His one moment of humanity was telling Joan after he saw he had won, “he’s not that bad.” Now he’s emboldened to tell Trudy he’s getting an apartment in the city.</p>
<p>I think Don seemed more stunned than angry - like “She’s leaving? Who gave her the idea that she was even allowed to leave?” He did seem a little angry when she told him she was going to CGC, though.
Pete’s riding for a fall. He’s so wrapped up in his hubris that he can’t see what he’s become and he’s just asking to get his butt kicked, figurately instead of literally this time. And the effects won’t fade away in a few weeks, either.</p>
<p>If this is such a good decision for Joan, then Pete should be commended. But, no matter, Joan is responsible for her decisions; no one else, despite what pressure was put upon her.</p>
<p>I wonder how this whole episode would have played out if Joan had told the partners to get bent, Peggy would have stayed and Meagan would have gotten the part and left town.</p>
<p>I guess it wouldn’t have been as impactful an episode then.</p>
<p>I don’t think it was such a good decision for Joan, ohiomom. I think she tried to figure out what to do with a bad situation. Pete is a pimp.</p>
<p>I just think it’s interesting to see the different viewpoints. Some posters think Joan owned her decision and that it is a good one and that she is empowered by her decision while others and maybe some of the same posters are disgusted by Pete.</p>