Mad Men

<p>I totally agree with worknprogress2’s analysis. Pete skillfully manipulated everyone, Joan and the partners by misrepresenting both sides to each other. I really think that she felt trapped into making the decision she did and being Joan, tried to make the best of a dismal situation. I think that she will come to regret her choice as she discovers it won’t be as easy to put behind her as she hopes.</p>

<p>I really don’t get the implication that there’s some sort of competitiveness between Peggy and Joan, or that Joan would be pleased or triumphant over Peggy leaving the firm.</p>

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<p>Neither do I, but I keep hearing so much about it I assume it must just be going over my head.</p>

<p>I also don’t believe that, until the recent episode, Joan goes particularly out of her way to use her sexuality to get ahead. I think she slept with Roger because she liked Roger. I didn’t see her getting any job perks from that and don’t think she’d accept any-- she won’t even accept help with the baby. I don’t think Joan being sexy (and/or sexual) and great at her job equates with using sex to get ahead in her job. Joan has always been independent and made it clear that she doesn’t need or want anybody’s help… that’s part of what makes this last episode so heartbreaking. To me, what she did was extremely out of character and I can’t imagine what kind of place she must have been in mentally to go along with it. Though Joan has always been a sex symbol on the show, I have always thought she had the highest level of self-respect and dignity. </p>

<p>Perhaps I am forgetting something that everybody else is remembering! I did watch everything up until the current season in a two week period.</p>

<p>That was heartbreaking! Why Lane? I was just getting to really like him!</p>

<p>I had a hard time with Peggy leaving. I knew Lane would kill himself when they showed him at home after the scene when Don tells him he has to resign.</p>

<p>I hope the last episode of the season ends on a more uplifting note.</p>

<p>I saw Lane’s suicide coming but was still so shocked. It was a great choice not to show the actual act but to let the tension build and then have Don and Roger walk in on an absolute mess. I feel terrible for Don since this is now the second suicide he will be blaming himself for.</p>

<p>I have to admit that I did laugh when the Jaguar wouldn’t start because it was just the perfect touch of irony, the groundwork for them being so unreliable having been so well established. That interlude was genius.</p>

<p>RIP Lane.</p>

<p>I spoiled myself for tonight’s episode and I am glad that I did. This week is the anniversary of a family friend’s suicide which came about six months after a guy at my school hung himself. He hung himself in his closet and his brother was the one to find him and take him down similar to the scene with Don, Roger, and Pete. </p>

<p>Don’s face throughout those scenes were so haunting. He has dealt with suicide before and I think is feeling the guilt wash over him. Lane didn’t tell anyone he got fired so Don is the only one who knows the real truth. I’ll miss Lane being on the show. I wonder whether they will take his name off of SCDP. </p>

<p>Creepy Glenn is back. His appearance was interesting. I saw it coming with Sally getting her period (I have to laugh - Judy Blume tweeted tonight ‘@judyblume: Congrats Sally! Now you are almost a woman. #madmen’) and liked that she ran off to her mother. They dislike each other but she was the only person she knew to go to.</p>

<p>I missed Peggy throughout this episode. Hopefully we’ll see her next week.</p>

<p>Oh, the sick humor of the Jaguar scene! Could tell it would not start from a mile away, but imagine if it had started, the publicity. So sad for Lane! And it all could have been avoided if he’d simply gone to Don earlier. Will Joan find comfort with Don?</p>

<p>Well, there’s no doubt Lane won’t be back. I’ll admit I’m always distracted trying to figure him as Richard Harris’s son. So different, unless it’s all acting.</p>

<p>Is Glenn really creepy? I’ve thought of him as another lost soul like Sally.</p>

<p>I wonder if Don would have fired Lane, if Cooper hadn’t read the riot act to him. Don responds to a strong father figure. As for Cooper, I still see J. Pierpont Finch in there. Love to see him belt out a song. I mean, why do you need Mad Men when you can have this?</p>

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<p>As we approach the season finale, I’m struck by Don growing in his connection to others. For me, in previous seasons he has had so few genuine connections to others; his family and colleagues have only been props to help him meet his goals. Certainly there have been exceptions such as Anna and his connection with Peggy that ebbs and flows. He is by no means perfect, but he has been growing and it is consistent with the time setting of the show. It’s interesting to watch the contrast between Don who will now often do what’s right, but not comfortable (such as cutting down Lane’s body) and Pete, who is so self-absorbed and who lacks any compassion for others. </p>

<p>I did like how they ended the episode with Don letting Glenn drive the car and I liked how Kenny told Roger he had no interest in partnership after seeing what was required to be a partner.</p>

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<p>Ken Cosgrove, Accounts had one of my favorite scenes this episode because of that speech. He is one of the most genuine characters on the show and seems to have some morals unlink other characters. I wish we could’ve seen his reaction to Peggy leaving since they had sort of a deal together.</p>

<p>Matt Weiner can’t let his son, the actor who plays Glenn be totally creepy because he is using Sally as a fake gf even though she is too young as so graphically portrayed by the Props Dept of the show.
Kiernan S., who plays Sally, is really a fine actress.</p>

<p>Who gets the office? Would you / they move the firm? Does the Price name get removed?</p>

<p>Loved the wee mustache on Glenn, so right on, unlike typical teens on tv. </p>

<p>I’m glad it didn’t work in the car, if that makes sense, his poor wife…in the office was as it should have been in his mind, so sad. </p>

<p>Wonder if don will fess up he fired him, Megan knows. Loved the scene with the mom and Sally at the end. I have been there.</p>

<p>Pete will be a total weenie, wanting prices shares</p>

<p>Loved Megan and wallis scenes as well, Megan never takes her angry out on Sally, like her mom does, but directs it at don, appropriately. And the coffee scene was so honest, it really was</p>

<p>I imagine it becomes Sterling, Cooper, Draper & Campbell.</p>

<p>I found the story of Lane to be a complete morality play: he forges a check because he can’t tell anyone - Bert, Don, Roger - with the truth about his real needs and then kills himself because he can’t tell anyone, let alone his wife, the truth. Keeping it in kills. We saw him attempt to break out with his black Playboy bunny girlfriend and even with his refusal to leave NYC. But he can’t escape how his past and his upbringing binds him to a set of lies he can’t admit. Only Joan has seen hints of the lecher underneath the facade. I call this a morality play because Lane is like the tragic hero who is undone by what we called in English class his “fatal flaw.” </p>

<p>BTW, Lane doesn’t understand cars well enough to start it first and then stop up the exhaust. It looked like the Jaguar failed but it was really him being inept. </p>

<p>I thought Don’s speech at Dow was great. It showed a deep understanding of their challenges as a company - complacency in marketing versus development of great products - and of their PR challenges. The line “If America needs it, Dow makes it” about Agent Orange was dead solid perfect. </p>

<p>I’ve been going through who and what is left in the show. They got rid of Jane Sterling so we don’t see that part of Roger’s life. Greg Harris is gone so we don’t see Joan’s marriage anymore. Peggy is gone, hard as that is to take. Lane is gone. The last 3 of those were central focal points for character and plot development out of work. </p>

<p>We still see Pete’s home life and Don’s. We’ve barely seen Betty this season, which makes sense because she’s now peripheral to Don’s life and the show is in the end about Don’s work and home life. When we’ve seen Betty, it’s almost completely through the lens of Sally, which makes sense because Don relates with the teenage daughter who is often like him. On the other side of ledger, we’re seeing more of Bert Cooper, which is terrific, but I can’t imagine the show getting into his home life. </p>

<p>I guess the moral is that time changes things, that people come and go and characters come and go like in real life. As much as we care about Peggy, in her work life Freddy was right: she should move to get ahead. I also wonder if cost pressures didn’t push the moves along: they were under a lot of pressure to reduce the cast and getting rid of principals is a big saver. Actors in those roles get paid the same even if they’re not in an episode or only have 2 lines. </p>

<p>I loved the details of Sally and Glen. I went to a prep school just a few years after this show’s setting. They could be cruel. Places like Hotchkiss were known for it. It doesn’t mean Glen is an outcast; it means that is his life right now and that can suck. Just like he said in the elevator with Don. That was a bit of Holden Caulfield talking.</p>

<p>I was happy for Betty that she felt wanted by her daughter. It’s funny for me to watch their interactions. They aren’t half as bad as many parent/kid relationships I knew from that era. (Sally is probably a few years older than me.) By 1967, there wasn’t a generation gap; there was a generation gulf. People younger than that have no idea how much things changed in such a short period of time. Earlier in the season, Don says to a girl waiting for the Stones show, “We’re worried about you.” Older generations always worry but this was one of the few times when the older generation was completely disconnected from the younger. Even the 20’s, with its short dresses and drinking and music, was a version of older culture only with the underbelly brought to the surface - meaning the way decent girls and boys then acted was the same as how indecent girls and boys always acted. We saw disillusionment in the aftermath of WWI, but as this season has explored nothing like the shift in the quality of dreams, in the point of life, in the reason for being like the way people across society became interested in what they wanted to do and become. As Don said, his dream growing up was indoor plumbing. The dream shifted to personal growth and fulfillment. </p>

<p>I see kids covered in tattoos and remember how the world grew long hair and started wearing bright clashing colors and that happened overnight. In a year or two. It wasn’t just drugs or the war but the first large scale rejection of the existing, older culture by the younger people. Older people adopted pot - and to an extent LSD - because older people drink and smoke and use pills. But they couldn’t adopt those attitudes. Megan, btw, is too old for that. She is 24, not 20, not 17. Part of the sad humor in Paul Kinsey is that he is way too old for that and it shows how lost a soul he is.</p>

<p>Key difference between long hair/weird clothing and tattoos–one you can easily change in an hour. I’m going to learn tattoo removal.</p>

<p>Wow, a very heavy episode. I knew by the end of the first scene that Lane would commit suicide. There will be a lot of fallout from this.</p>

<p>DH and I watched this last night and I could not wait to get on here to discuss! I had thankfully avoided looking at the thread before watching…</p>

<p>Thing is, I don’t know what to say. It was so, so sobering. My reaction to Lane’s taking his life like that was to be angry with him and to feel awful for his poor wife and all the others he left behind. I know that’s not very sympathetic and compassionate, but he choose to do something that will scar so many rather than deal with the fallout from his own actions…</p>

<p>To add: I just found an interview with Jarred Harris, who plays Lane, and this is what HE said about his character’s actions</p>

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<p>So that makes me feel less crummy for being mad at Lane. :)</p>

<p>^ That’s interesting. I did kind of feel like leaving the resignation letter was a dig at Don.</p>

<p>I had really gotten sucked into this cycle of feeling deep pity for Lane, to being disgusted by him, back to pity, over and over and over… I am kind of glad to step back from that, though I am sad that it ended this way. I knew what was going to happen and found the episode to be much more upsetting than I’d expected.</p>

<p>I was really surprised by the way Lane reacted to being asked to resign, but perhaps I shouldn’t have been. I’ve found him a bit difficult to read at times, I guess. I didn’t expect the anger… I think if Lane had asked, the company would have helped him… it was the dishonesty that Don couldn’t tolerate, imo. I am surprised Lane couldn’t see that. What a mess that man was!</p>

<p>Yes, it is unfortunate Lane could not bring himself to confide in Don earlier. They had established a relationship and Don would have understood and helped him most certainly. But, after discovering what happened, Lane could no longer be trusted. Some of Lane’s reluctance to go to Don could have been due to his British upbringing and reserved ways, stiff upper lip and all that, take care of it yourself, don’t appear weak. But, he did do a lot for the firm as he had said to Don and had not yet been fairly compensated in relation to what he had done. So tragic a thought for someone to take his or her own life in order to “punish” someone else, (especially when he/she is fully responsible for the situation.) I think Harris is a very good actor and I’d like to see him play a different type of character in the future.</p>