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<p>How will this impact current and future oos students if at all? Any ideas?</p>
<p>It is so sad for current instate hs students. I don’t understand how entering junior transfers effect the admission of freshman. Anybody know?</p>
<p>It’s pretty much the same story here in California. Community college transfers are given priority in terms of admissions and many kids are opting for that track if they don’t get into the UC’s to begin with (or in many cases, they’re not even applying to the UC’s as freshman, just going straight to CC). I’m not sure how much these transfers are crowding out freshman slots at the UC’s or in other states, however, as most public schools, including Salisbury, have a dismal retention rate to begin with.</p>
<p>Salisbury retention rate as listed in the USNEWS 2004 is 83% and Towson’s is 84% (collegeboard is posting it currently at 86%, so a small improvement).</p>
<p>That’s the freshman to sophomore year retention rate. I’m talking about the retention to graduation rate which US News lists as 45% graduating in 4 years, 65% in six years. Not awful for a public institution, but still points to lots of room for all those transfer students as 55% of Salisbury students never graduate.</p>
<p>I live in Maryland, and a lot of kids go to the tri-county community college and transfer into Maryland. A LOT. But I was talking with a man in my church who works with recruiting , and he says that almost every community college kid shows a 3.7+ in the community college and then a 1.something when they get to UMD. So even if they did raise the minimum GPA, they’d still have a problem with grade inflation at the local colleges.</p>
<p>That said, the College of Southern Maryland has some great teachers and we just got a new, local campus with great equipment.</p>
<p>Due transfer students get counted in the graduation rates? Carolyn, your right about the graduation graduation, so what is the problem w admission of freshman b/c of the transfers?</p>
<p>5 year graduation rates:
Salisbury-64.7%
Towson-54.7%
MDCollege-68.7%
MDBC-48%</p>
<p>Well, Salisbury isn’t exactly drowning in transfer applications either. According to US News, they received just over 1400 transfer applications last year, and enrolled just over 700. So, I suspect that there’s more to the story than Salisbury’s president moaning about transfer students being pushed on her.</p>
<p>Carolyn that is interesting. I just talked to a relative of mine in MD. She was not aware of the news story. Her oldest child is in 4th grade. She did tell me that she was aware of large competition to get into UMD, where she graduated. She was unaware of admission problems at other state schools, but she is not familiar with them either.</p>
<p>By the way, do you know why the graduation rate is so low for these schools? I am curious about all of this b/c my S is interested in Towson.</p>
<p>I would guess the real complaint is that the Universities are required to admit CC transfers, not the absolute number of those transfers. Auto-admitting CC students with 2.0 averages makes it hard for a school to improve its stats and certainly detracts from the mystical randomness of the admissions process.</p>
<p>Don’t juniors take different classes from freshmen? They can live off campus rather than in the dorms. They could have explained a little bit the logistics of how additional junior transfers are crowding out freshmen.</p>