Pretty incredible but quite predictable
Safety is becoming a premium.
It’s sick.
I saw a blurb saying twitter is lighting up with people posting in support of the magazine, saying “Je suis Charlie.”
No comment on the bombing in Colorado?
I wish they’d post those cartoons on the front page of every single newspaper, in print and online. Too bad if people are offended, they need to learn that you can’t silence people by executing them for exercising their rights of free speech. It will just make it louder.
Sadly, I fear nobody else will have the guts to do so. Those were brave journalists. But yes, quite predictable, these creeps are executing thousands just for not practicing the same religion, no surprise here. A very sad day.
^^^^^Yes, indeed.
Free speech is always the enemy of tyranny.
Like busdriver, I wish that all newspapers and TV stations around the world would re-publish the cartoons that set this thing off. The media needs to show that it won’t be intimidated by violence. If they don’t it shows that murder and violence will achieve what the terrorists want.
Free speech is under attack these days, whether by cyber threats, threats of violence, threats of boycotts, etc. The world doesn’t seem to get the concept of freedom of speech. If someone says something you don’t agree with, he has a right to say it and you have the right to speak your opinion in rebuttal. Such a simple concept.
^^^^It should be anyway.
Here’s an article that shows some of Charlie Hebdo’s cartoons and covers.
http://www.vox.com/2015/1/7/7507883/charlie-hebdo-explained-covers
Thanks, Tatin.
“I have no kids, no wife, no car, no credit,” he told Le Monde in 2012. “What I am saying may be a bit pompous, but I prefer to die standing than live on my knees.”
What an example. What an incredibly brave man, Stephane Charbonnier was. Now that is a hero.
The success of Charlie Hebdo was based on daring to say publicly what the common Frenchman would say in the privacy of his home. Despite the satire twists, it was often dead right on what the reaction of normal and decent people should be when witnessing abuses and attacks on a country’s culture and beliefs.
The unfortunate part is that it is already too late for Europe as its overall penchant for laissez-faire and liberal views has failed to address the threats when they developed. The United States still has the opportunity to kill the looming cancer in its infancy but will probably fall into the same trap as it tends to adopt most bad ideas from Europe and reject the correct ones.
We really, really should look at what has happened on the streets of Brussels, London, Amsterdam, Copenhagen, and now Paris to understand how easily and rapidly a city can deteriorate. This is especially true in Brussels which has been inching towards a majority of Muslim inhabitants with a related control of the city halls and police forces.
Not a pretty picture: http://www.cbn.com/tv/1509282970001
What do you think can be done about it, Xiggi?
Sylvan, I wish I had the right answer to such complex issues, but I do not. In a way, responses to terrorism that are aggressive might be seen as a form of attacks to democracy. In theory, we should be able to dissociate terrorism from its religious base, but in practice, that has appeared to be impossible in countries that believe in religious freedom.
Perhaps, we might look with closer attention at mechanisms that are more protective of our own culture and values as opposed to bend backwards to protect those than came through immigration and conversion. But then again, there is a fine line between mitigation and fascism. Again, I believe that our country should spend its vast resources to learn from what appeared to be vast mistakes in the European assimilation and integration policies.
My opinions are probably biased by witnessing the chagrin of my grandparents who were “forced” to leave their neighborhood twice because of the condoned economic deterioration. The image of seeing the tears in their eyes when they showed me and my parents around their former neighborhoods is hard to forget. Some anecdotes hit harder than others.
Wow, police have already identified 3 suspects. If these are really the perps, I wonder how the police figured this out so quickly.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/07/europe/france-satire-magazine-gunfire/index.html
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The unfortunate part is that it is already too late for Europe as its overall penchant for laissez-faire and liberal views has failed to address the threats when they developed. The United States still has the opportunity to kill the looming cancer in its infancy but will probably fall into the same trap as it tends to adopt most bad ideas from Europe and reject the correct ones.
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Yes, yes, yes
CNN wimps out. Blurs out the cartoons.
CNN did the same thing when the Danish cartoons created a Muslim uproar.
My expectations are:
- These murders will accomplish their goal, which is to stifle criticism or even conversation about Islam, except of course about it as a religion of peace.
- There will be increased criticism of Israel by all connected to Islamism as they pursue the tactic of deflection. I'm betting more use of phrases like "slow-motion genocide". And I'm betting the compliant weaklings who fear Islamists will go along with labeling Israel (and Jews in general) as being the real cause.
- There will be a spurt in the Arab media that this attack was conducted by "Zionists", meaning literally Israelis or sometimes whomever they conceive of as actually carrying out attacks "intended to embarrass Islam". This will be repeated so often many people in the Arab world will take for granted that Israel and/or the US actually did these murders. I've spent some time reading comments on various news sites and there is a pretty strong undercurrent of this already, including mentions of "Mossad?" and claims that it must be non-Muslims. (Though they've already identified the perpetrators and, surprise, they are Muslim.)
- There will be an increase, not a decrease in the number of absurd prosecutions for insulting Islam. I'm talking about inside Europe, like in Sweden or Holland or France. People are fined and charged with crimes for remarks that refer to Islam because that is deemed to incite hatred.
- There will be pressure to stop public demonstrations against Islamism and immigrants. Europeans prefer appeasement over strength.
My brother disagrees. He feels this attack strikes at the heart of French love of liberty and particularly of freedom of expression. (Which exists, though there have been a number of cases of speech suppressed or punished because it refers to Islam.)
Sigh… pretty pessimistic, Lergnom, though I think #3 is totally spot-on.
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And people who now stand in the streets to condemn the terrorists should also remember to condemn the newspapers that cowardly are pixelating the purportedly offensive cartoons.
Treating the terrorists and their religious zealot leaders with kids’ gloves is only empowering them. Why are we continuing to refuse to correctly indict them for their actions, or even worse offering a perverse protection in attacking the voices that stand up against the aggressors.
Lergnom is correct.