<p>10% and I think I got 7 for the Y-intercept for something maybe?</p>
<p>Question
Is it possible to recieve the sat scores before April 7th</p>
<p>For the question about the person standing in the line, I got 23. The question read… You are 15th from the front in line, and 7th from the back in line. How many people are in this line?</p>
<p>Immediately, when I see “from” something, I think subtract. That’s a subtraction word. The front of the line is the first person in line, so I subtracted 15 people from the first person in line. Same reasoning for the back, which is the last person in line. If you take 7 from the last person in line, you end up with 21 people in between the first and last person in line. Therefore, you have 23 people.</p>
<p>Here’s a diagram. </p>
<p>Front 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 (15/7) 6 5 4 3 2 1 Back</p>
<p>You must count the front and the back of the line, for they are people. It’s not just some arbitrary term. Also, if it wanted you to be 15th in line, it would have said that you were 15th in line, not 15th “from the front”. That directly implies subtraction!</p>
<p>^Uhh…no.</p>
<p>There is not a “front” and then a “1st” person. That’s just stupid. 15th from the front means you are the 15th person in line. The reason they say the “front” is because they have to distinguish from the front and the back. There is not a person labeled “front”.</p>
<p>Mathlord it is 21, how can there be 23 people.
Get 7 (because he is the 7th from one end) add 15 (because he is the 15 from the other)
this equals to 22
subtract by one because Jim appears twice.
This equals ====21====</p>
<p>Seriously? You’re trying to tell me that the front of the line is not a person? The “front” of a line is the first person in line. How can you say it’s not a person? If you go up to your local movie theater and get in line, at the front of the line there is going to be a person, not just a missing space. That’s common sense.</p>
<p>This question was worded horribly. </p>
<p>“There is not a “front” and then a “1st” person. That’s just stupid. 15th from the front means you are the 15th person in line. The reason they say the “front” is because they have to distinguish from the front and the back. There is not a person labeled “front”.”</p>
<p>By your argument, they should have just said there were 15 people in front of you and 7 behind you. They did not do that. The “front” and the “back” of a line are people, that I’m sure of. It’s not a stupid argument at all… a good many of my friends also got this because of the way the question was worded.</p>
<p>I realize how you get 21, but that’s without counting the first and last person in line.</p>
<p>lol…</p>
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<p>Yes, of course the front and back of the line are people. What you’re missing is that the front of the line IS the first person. You can’t count them as two separate people. There’s no “0th” person.</p>
<p>I’m not counting the first person twice. I’m simply saying that if you are 15th from the front, then you are 1-15 = 16th in line, not 15th in line. I’m not counting anyone twice. </p>
<p>Same thing for going the other way.</p>
<p>I see the argument you’re making. However, you’re ignoring common convention. When someone says, “I’m the first person from the front on the line,” he’s not saying that he’s second in line, he’s saying he’s first in line. Likewise for the 15th person from the front - he’s the 15th person, not the 16th. I suppose it’s an arbitrary way of expressing things and yours is just as viable logically speaking, but it’s just not the way we talk. It’s clear from the number of people who disagree with you (and the lack of people who agree with you) that our understanding of the phraseology is the one held by the majority.</p>
<p>And when we say “front of the line,” I don’t think we’re referring to the person standing at the front. I think we’re just referring to an imaginary point that marks the beginning of the line.</p>
<p>^Yes, I’ve never heard the first person in line referred to as “the front of the line”. They would be “AT the front of the line”; its a place.</p>
<p>I see what you’re saying, I just find this question highly subjective. This is the only problem on the Math section I’m not sure about. I’d like to send a letter to Collegeboard, because I think that my argument is logical and I can support it. It’s just that this is the first time I have seen a line problem and have it said “from the back” or “from the front”. </p>
<p>It usually will say there is a certain number of people in front of you, and a certain number behind. I just had never seen something with this phrasing, and I took it in a different direction. It should not have been on there…</p>
<p>Even still, has there been confirmation on this?</p>
<p>Well, we can’t really confirm anything until scores come out, but everyone seems to agree that it’s 21.</p>
<p>I do sympathize with you. It seems like a number of people thought questions on this test were ambiguous or poorly worded. Hopefully it’ll result in a decent curve.</p>
<p>Yes, I remember a problem with a graph that was asking for the change in percent. But I also remember there being a 12% choice. Am I thinking of the same question you guys are thinking of?</p>
<p>cant wait until april 7!!!</p>
<p>Hmm… would sending off a letter to the Collegeboard change anything or would it just be an exercise of futility?</p>
<p>I mean, especially if I wasn’t a native speaker, this question would be even MORE confusing, and I AM a native speaker and it still doesn’t make sense to me. I feel that it’s an unfair question… but would they drop it? Have they done this in the past? It’s just mightily bugging me, this was the only problem I think I got wrong :(</p>
<p>I doubt you’d have much success, but I believe questions have been thrown out twice in the past.</p>
<p>MathLord, you’re the only person from this entire board who misunderstood the question. I don’t think collegeboard is gonna side w/ you lol…</p>