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<p>Wow, McCain is such a tool. And he’s a huge idiot too. He’s never going to win the internet war.</p>
<p>Well, I guess I’m just too “sensitive” to vote for the Democrat in November. I’m sure that either McCain or Nader will appreciate my “sensitive” vote. I hope you are more persuasive when you phone bank for your guy.</p>
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<p>First of all, you accused me of saying your wife was a racist when I did not. However, instead of saying you’re overly sensitive–whether that’s true or not–I should have just apologized and said that I didn’t mean to imply your wife was a racist.</p>
<p>Second, you said you’re not voting for him because you don’t like him. He is who is he is so what good would trying to convince you he’s not who he is when he is who he is and you don’t like who he is do? You seem to have made up your mind.</p>
<p>Anyway, I’ll give it a try, what do you disagree with him on?</p>
<p>Don’t waste your time. I made up my mind the day after the New Hampshire primary when your guy played the race card.</p>
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<p>You just proved me right then. You don’t understand what “playing the race card” is; you don’t know when someone is calling you racist; you pretty much don’t get anything that has to deal with race and it’s probably because you’re an older American.</p>
<p>Suit yourself if you want to believe I’m too stupid to vote for your guy. Guilty as charged. I guess the seas just haven’t parted for me.</p>
<p>That’s the great thing about America. Votes of stupid people count the same as those of anyone else – except of course in Florida and Michigan.</p>
<p>newjack Please enlighten us with the definition of playing race card?</p>
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<p>You continually claim Obama himself is “playing the race card” when I simply have seen no such thing. Even with the Reverend Wright fiasco people here were claiming his comments were racist and yet when I asked them to produce one quote, not many, just one that was genuinely racist they never did. I still want to see this because I want to see the basis of their claims. I am not claiming he has never uttered a racist comment, but that I have not seen even one that was and that because of this I literally do not yet accept the basis of these claims. Yet Obama is taking a hit because of a claim that I think is not even supported. Now he is being accused of “playing the race card” simply because he mentions how the wingers have used racist fear-mongering all over the United States, all over the internet, and all to defeat him and help John McCain. If he does not fight this by warning open-minded people about it and by encouraging them to reject it, then how better can he address it? This is not playing the race card. It is facing racism. When McCain then begins doing what his supporters have long done, but only more politely, it puts Obama at a serious and unfair disadvantage. It in essence exploits the racist groundwork that McCain’s supporters have laid since Obama began his campaign. Obama was right to encourage America not to fall into that sort of thinking. Had none of this been going on against him, and yet he claimed Americans will not vote for him because of his race, then you would have a point.</p>
<p>I can’t speak about your wife because I do not know her. I do, however, believe there are millions of Americans who outwardly claim to be open-minded, who love to claim “I once supported Obama”, but who in fact are quite racist in their hearts and never would have voted for the man. They harp on statements made by others, and find anti-white racism where it does not exist, and then grow unreasonably bitter against Obama (who didn’t even make the statements), deciding to “punish” Obama because they want to feel justified in expressing their racism. I do not think whites need to support Obama. Shoot. I don’t even support the man. But whenever I read about whites who “can’t stand” and who can’t even stand to see him on TV, I think such people are unthinking and unreasonable. I think they are possibly being influenced by race and that were he white he would not be as hated as he is. After all, Obama has done nothing to evoke such personal and visceral reactions in these people, many of whom even claim to accept his views.</p>
<p>I reject Obama because I think he lacks experience, that he is an average leader at best. I reject McCain because I think for all his experience, he lacks executive experience, that he lacks presidential temperament, that he is as empty as Obama is. I think he will be a far worse president than Obama would be. But I certainly don’t hate McCain, and I do not hate Obama. I reject BOTH these clowns without any malice at all. And if I have malice toward either of them, it will be because of what they said or what they did or what they expressed in policy. I have reasons for rejecting them, none based on race (at least not against them based on race). So it is quite possible that whites can think likewise about either or both of these candidates. But I do not think these whites who hate Obama so much have any sort of basis for this, certainly none that I have seen. Their visceral reaction to his defense against the very real racism he endures is telling. There is something else entirely happening when a white person hates the guy so much that she can’t even see him. I do not think it possible for any reasonable person to so rapidly move from a position of loving the guy to bitterly hating him when he hasn’t even done anything to warrant such hatred.</p>
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<p>Who said this? Was it actually a campaign statement? If it was Donna Brazile then you just prove my point. She hadn’t even endorsed Obama, hadn’t even represented him when she said whatever it was that she said (I have to see the context), and yet so many whites are killing Obama because of it. The guy is going out of his way to get white support, but they hate him because of what someone else is doing. It is telling.</p>
<p>“I reject Obama because I think he lacks experience, that he is an average leader at best.”</p>
<p>Is it OK for a black person says that? If any one else says that Obamaniacs imply and accuse others that you are saying that because Obama is black.</p>
<p>Simba, it isn’t worth arguing with them. I’m just going to remember being called “racist” and “stupid” by the Obama folk when I go to vote in September (for John Kerry’s primary) and again in November.</p>
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<p>Really, simba. Try to be reasonable.</p>
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<p>Well, if you approach their candidate with the same attitude that causes you to call them “Obamaniacs”, they have reasons to be suspicious, especially considering the racist climate that Obama’s supporters have created since the beginning of the campaign season.</p>
<p>Simba. Welcome to the club. According to the Obamabots, we are now “racist”, “stupid”, and “unreasonable”. What a way to campaign for votes, huh?</p>
<p>ID I hope you are successful with Kerry thing. Him and that Kennedy need to retire.</p>
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<p>No one is calling you stupid.</p>
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<p>You do realize that anyone who is debating politics online probably already knows who they are going to vote for right?</p>
<p>Also, not all anti-Obama people are racists. No one is saying or suggesting that except for you, and your repeating that seems to suggest you are the one who thinks all Obama haters are racist. Is that honestly what you think? If so, very few people would agree with you.</p>
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<p>America certainly needs a leader that is outside the current mold, and I think were America capable of upholding Obama, she would get such a leader. I think the whole world has such goodwill toward the man that he could help effect the sort of pressure release the world needs in order to avert the disaster that is about to unfold. But to become as great as he could be, America would certainly have to uphold him as it did Reagan (an empty suit if ever there was one), and that is something America cannot do. Obama is not so exceptional that he could lead a nation that essentially hates him. The country deserves a leader that it can imagine, not one that has imagination. So when you threaten to cast a vote against yourself, I see it as a judgment on you and on what you claim to embrace. Those who hate Obama so much that they are willing to vote against their beliefs really do Obama a great service by rejecting his candidacy. Sure, he won’t become the first “black president” and all that sort of utter nonsense (and I am sure he wants this), but in the long run he will be better off not leading a country that hates him so much that even his ideological compatriots are incapable of following him.</p>
<p>So what will your vote do against Obama? Very little. He will return to the senate with far greater stature than ever before (compared to Hillary, who I think lost more than she gained), and have a fine life. More importantly, his children will avoid a lot of the nonsense that America would otherwise heap on them. Nothing is worth of this-- certainly not the US Presidency. As for you, your vote will mean you will just keep doing exactly the same things you have always done, and, accordingly, you will get exactly the sorts of results and move in exactly the same direction we are going. It is all fine with me – really. I want you to vote against Obama, and get what you deserve.</p>
<p>Thanks for the sermon.</p>
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<p>Obama is a junior first term senator from Illinois, and when he returns to the senate he will still be a junior first senator from Illinois. His stature wont increase one bit. He is so far down the seniority pole, I don’t think he will have much influence. </p>
<p>I hope this time around, he will spend time doing the work that he was sent to do, and not spend so much time running for another office.</p>
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<p>Just putting it out there that Hillary is a junior senator too.</p>
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<p>How do you know that?</p>
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<p>Hey, did Obama miss out on something? How long do you have to be in the Senate before you can run for president? Also, how many bills do you need your name on until you’re “experienced?”</p>
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<p>First of all, I must insist - It is NOT about race! (I guess we can say this until the cows come home, but some people will always continue to believe it is about race. So - what do we have to do to prove it isn’t about race - *elect * the guy? (Even when the other guy is more prepared for the job?).</p>
<p>Secondly, WHO is"sticking it to the black guy w/ impunity"? Aside fom some supposed t-shirts (which I haven’t seen), I don’t think Obama has been any more of a “target” than any other presidential candidate - and probably LESS than some! If Obama is such a racial dart board, can you please provide some examples of ridicule which a purely race-based? Maybe I’m just naive & sheltered 
but I’m not seeing it happening. (I get around on the net quite a bit, esp. political forums, but truthfully, I haven’t seen many (any!) racial jabs).</p>
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<p>Well, holding at least ONE meeting for the committee you chair would be a good start!</p>