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<p>IQ points are not a “measure,” and that is the first of several fallacies here. (Check the writings of Joel Michell for this point.) Yeah, it would appeal to my male ego to believe that men are smarter than women in general, but I have so many doofus men to point to–such as the authors of the study–that the number of counterexamples is overwhelming.</p>
<p>Am I the only one who was wondering what the errors could have been and what the margin of error was for the study? Because five sounds quite impressive; five plus or minus four does not.</p>
<p>Here is a question from an IQ test I took as a girl:</p>
<p>Why do we send people to prison?</p>
<p>Rehabilitation
Punishment
To get them out of society</p>
<p>What is the “correct answer” here?</p>
<p>Multi-tasking, men can’t listen to somene talk and watch sports at the same time</p>
<p>Single-tasking, women can’t watch sports without talking about something totally unrelated at the same time!</p>
<p>Seriously though, my response to the estimeed professor would be, “I wonder who wrote the IQ tests? Men? Women?”</p>
<p>My response would be: does it matter?</p>
<p>People get mad at me when I say something like: Maybe men are more predisposed for math/science than women… but what I mean is this: Why the hell would it matter? A guy who sits on his butt all day would still be less likely to win a Nobel prize than a girl who studies and works at something.</p>
<p>But I ask all kinds of questions during baseball, like why it takes fooooorrreeeevvveerrr</p>
<p>The IQ tests are not “pure”…</p>
<p>And, as you can see with the question I posted above, its not simple. I got it wrong, but between two choices, I could not pick. The correct answer was Rehabilitation, but does that really happen?</p>
<p>It matters because of preconceived notions of what people are capable of. And in society, if one sex, one race, one nationality, is considered “stupider” which this report implies, that can make a difference.</p>
<p>Prejudice can take many forms, and when someone uses “science” to prove something like that, well…</p>
<p>For instance, pre-Title 9, women were thought not to be able to do sports at the same level as men.</p>
<p>At my Ds elementary school, the Principal said that girls needed less exercise and yard room than boys because they don’t run as much, etc. Well, they didn’t run as much because their yard was half the size and they couldn’t run. Put those girls in a big yard, and they play ball, race, do the same things as the boys.</p>
<p>It was that preconceived notion that because they were girls they needed less.</p>
<p>So this in important because some people, who think women should be second class citizens will us this as justifications for not promoting, not hiring etc.</p>
<p>In this country, women didn’t get the vote for 150 years or so because it was thought they weren’t smart enough to figure out politics.</p>
<p>So it matters a great deal.</p>
<p>For years, there were scienctists who said certain races for dumber than others. And people believed it. Very indeed.</p>
<p>“Sex differences in means and variability on the progressive matrices in university students: A meta-analysis”</p>
<p>Author: Paul Irwing and Richard Lynn
Source: British Journal of Psychology
Publisher: British Psychological Society</p>
<p>Not available online, unfortunately. The CTY research from Johns Hopkins usually shows a roughly equal number of 12 year old males and females who score above 700 on the verbal SAT, if memory serves, although it may be 60-40 in favor of males. (700 at age 12 means about an IQ of 160). Math scorers above 700 at the age of 12 split 4 to 1 in favor of males. The trouble is that this is not a random sample–kids have to apply for the program, and it gets a heavy proportion of mid-atlantic and NY city kids. I can try to hunt up links if anyone is interested. </p>
<p>Males have another advantage that may be just as important: natural competitiveness in worldly arenas, or that old rough it up spirit. Some women do of course, but not as many. Researchers of “individual differences” have all kinds of fun stuff for you to read, if you have the time.</p>
<p>My response? Good work, girls, the first part of our plan is unfolding nicely …</p>
<p>lefthandofdog,
I will pass on the word to our sisters, its time for step 2 of THE PLAN to unfold…</p>
<p>I’ve always lived in a man’s world having gone to an engineering college in the '70s where the proportion of women to men was 1:100, 10 women for every 1000 men. In the work world as well, there are very few women techies, at least where I work. I’ve also succeeded and done quite well. The study gives me a lot of comfort in that "The paper will argue that there is evidence that at the same level of IQ women are able to “achieve more” than men, ". :)</p>
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<p>NO IT DOES NOT. That is total baloney, because each kind of test sorts test-takers into a different rank order, and no test is even perfectly correlated with a retake on the same test, much less with the rank order resulting from scores on another test. The best one can say about a score of such-and-such on one test is that it will be associated, at such-and-such confidence level, with a RANGE of scores on the other test, and a particular individual can be expected to score in that range on the second test, knowing the first test score, only to that confidence level. Even the form L and the form M of the old second revision Stanford-Binet IQ test didn’t correlate with each other very well at all, especially at the high end of the IQ score range. </p>
<p>You really need to read Joel Michell and the other authors who have been alerted by him to fallacies of psychological testing to understand why IQ tests are not a measure of anything. </p>
<p><a href=“http://www.iapsych.com/Forrest_files/frame.htm[/url]”>http://www.iapsych.com/Forrest_files/frame.htm</a> </p>
<p>(The above link works best in Microsoft Internet Explorer, because it is an online power point presentation. The link includes a detailed graphic and discussion of test score correlations that makes the essential point.) </p>
<p><a href=“http://learninfreedom.org/iqbooks.html[/url]”>http://learninfreedom.org/iqbooks.html</a> </p>
<p>(The second link should work with absolutely any browser and recommends much good scholarly reading on the subject.)</p>